Thomas A. Droleskey on the Lies of Protestantism

Seattle Catholic ^ | September 29, 2003 | Thomas A. Droleskey

[Wrigley]

Then some of the RCs here are using thrir own personal interpretation of the Council of Trent. I've seen it said that it only applied to those who were alive when it was pronounced and that it isn't in effect anymore.

[ksen]

Show me where in the constitution it says "seperation of Church and State" and I will send $10.00 to your favorite charity.

I never said those words were in there.

The Separation Clause of the First Amendment is...

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...."

Sure sounds like they were trying to keep the government out of the Church.

[RnMomof7]

Instead of making snide, worthless comments, perhaps you'd like to defend Protestantism, or else post a list of Catholic "lies"?

The internet is not big enough to hold it all

[conservonator]

Two notable examples. The author claims that Protestants see the Pope as the Anti-Christ. Even at the time this was written (over 100 years ago), this was not a univerally held Protestant belief. Further, the author claims that Luther admitted that his beliefs were inspired by the devil.

I don't now about the second claim but regarding the first: unless he used the superlative "all" preceding the word protestant, I don't see what you problem is with his assertion. You can find plenty of non-Catholic Christians that hold that belief today.

[RnMomof7]

Well, the fact the items 1-8 are Scriptural makes this an interesting debate. However, re: #9 - Protestants do not believe in the separation of Church and State.

Lite unlike Rome that demanded conversion of all the people in a captured lands I would point out that the constitution of the United States was written by Protestants..You get a zero in History and cause and effect.

[Gamecock]

Actually, it sounds like it was supposed to be a neutral position, instead of the current hostile one.

[xJones]

So certainly know how to throw a food fight.

[conservonator]

I would like to see their biblical teachings to support prayer to Mary saints, Mary as Co redeemer, indulgences etc..

You've seen it countless times, and denied just as many times, what's the point?

[RnMomof7]

We believe in one God the Father all powerful, maker of all things both seen and unseen. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the only-begotten begotten from the Father, that is from the substance of the Father, God from God, light from light, true God from true God, begotten not made, cosubstantial with the Father, through whom all things came to be, both those in heaven and those in earth; for us humans and for our salvation he came down and became incarnate, became human, suffered and rose up on the third day, went up into the heavens, is coming to judge the living and the dead. And in the holy Spirit. (Creed of the Council of Nicea)

Pssssss Protestants use that creed..

[xJones]

*87 You certainly know how to hold a food fight.

[LiteKeeper]

Lite unlike Rome that demanded conversion of all the people in a captured lands I would point out that the constitution of the United States was written by Protestants..You get a zero in History and cause and effect.

Could you elaborate. I think we are talking about the same thing, just using different terminology.

[OLD REGGIE]

Ah, I long for the days when a Council would condemn errors...*sigh*

Do you miss the burning at the stakes too?

[Gamecock]

Here is what I don't understand about the Mary thing. If she herself was pure and Holy, like her Son, who were her parents?

[LiteKeeper]

Separation Clause of the First Amendment

That is your title to the Amendment...not the Constitution's. Too often your title has been used to justify the elimination of the Church from the Public Square, and that is NOT what the Founders had in mind when they wrote this.

[conservonator]

Then some of the RCs here are using thrir own personal interpretation of the Council of Trent. I've seen it said that it only applied to those who were alive when it was pronounced and that it isn't in effect anymore.

Can you link to an example?

[malakhi]

I've seen it said that it only applied to those who were alive when it was pronounced and that it isn't in effect anymore.

This is implied in the Universal Catechism. See my reply #8.

[drstevej]

So much for "errant brethren" and Vatican II. This sounds like the familiar anathemas of Trent.

[The Grammarian]

Now here's a Papist I can respect. At least he hasn't given way to this "ecumenism" crap. I certainly respect him more than Romanists who say that Protestants are "separated brethren," or try to downplay the differences between the Church of Rome and the Protestant Communions.

[Wrigley]

You'll have to take my word for it. I'm not about to go thru the countless threads to find the examples. I've seen them, and they've been commented on.

[Pahuanui]

Without an authoritative guide to interpret Divine Revelation, including Sacred Scripture, individual believers can come to mutually contradictory conclusions about the meaning of passages, the precise thing that has given rise to literally thousands of Protestant sects.

A concise encapulation of the presumptuous arrogance of some Catholics.

Dog, meet manger. Manger, meet dog.