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To: Polycarp
John Kippley brought this up in the latest CCL newsletter. He said he believes promoters of NFP have often tended to offer it as "morally acceptable birth control," and have underemphasized the need for serious reasons to avoid conception. He intends to make this point more strongly in the future - that positive openness to new life (not just "We can live with OOPS!") is the truly Catholic position on marriage.

It's a complicated issue ... who, other than God, can say what is a "grave reason" to postpone pregnancy in a particular marriage?
3 posted on 09/23/2003 6:24:28 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Did I say that? Quotes only, no paraphrasing, please!)
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To: Tax-chick; Maximilian
John Kippley brought this up in the latest CCL newsletter. He said he believes promoters of NFP have often tended to offer it as "morally acceptable birth control," and have underemphasized the need for serious reasons to avoid conception. He intends to make this point more strongly in the future - that positive openness to new life (not just "We can live with OOPS!") is the truly Catholic position on marriage.

Wow, that IS good. Kippley IS the NFP movement in America. I'm glad to see the mainstream (CCL) moving in a direction opposite that of Fr. Hogan, who appears to be out on a limb here.

4 posted on 09/23/2003 6:37:00 PM PDT by Polycarp (PRO-LIFE--without exception, without compromise, without apology.)
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To: Tax-chick
John Kippley brought this up in the latest CCL newsletter. He said he believes promoters of NFP have often tended to offer it as "morally acceptable birth control," and have underemphasized the need for serious reasons to avoid conception. He intends to make this point more strongly in the future - that positive openness to new life (not just "We can live with OOPS!") is the truly Catholic position on marriage.

John Kippley has written some very good things in the past, and his wife Sheila has a book that is much better than NFP, "Breastfeeding and Natural Child Spacing." Now that is Natural Family Planning, not charting, etc.

However, I don't believe Kippley has much influence on what's promoted by CCL. For years now Kipply has been encouraging the reading of Casti Connubii, while the CCL website is promoting Christopher West, Mr. "Naked Without Shame" himself.

11 posted on 09/29/2003 4:36:59 PM PDT by Maximilian
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