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So BTL sometimes people's minds do get changed on FR
RnMomof7, Thank you for sharing that with me.

To All: I find that I must offer a retraction and an appology for my statement, "you arn't goning to change anyone's mind around here" (meaning the Religion Forum). Fellow Freepers, I was wrong and I am sincerely sorry for what I said.
I said what I did before I learned of what happened with RnMomof7 and before I looked in my Freepmail box. When I looked in my email box, I was amazed to find overflowing messages. Some were from people who had posted to this thread, but more were from those who had not. They were all messages of encouragement, praise to God, blessings, inspiration, welcomes, and of God's love. Some were from people who have rethought, or who said they might have to rethink, their positions of dress in the church because of my wife's story. And a couple from people who are dealing with matters of dress in their own church and were encouraged.
I am deeply moved and I thank you all. Your kind words are a blessing. My wife is out of town now, but when she returns I will show her all of your wonderful posts and emails. I thank you on her behalf.
I never knew it could feel so good to be wrong.
To those who Freepmailed me: If I have not yet responded to your email be patient I will write you back. It is late now and I must get to bed.

Again, my appologies and thanks.

My Brother,

We scream, we fuss, sometimes we get annoyed with each other. But what really happens here, IMHO, is that this little corner of FR sharpens our swords so when we leave and go out into the real world we can teach the gospel.

Every day I have to reevaluate, think just a little harder, and recover from a bruising because I thought I knew. There are a lot of very smart, blessed people on this board. I have learned a lot.

Thank you for your significant contribution over the last day!

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Sola Deo Gloria!

I said what I did before I learned of what happened with RnMomof7 and before I looked in my Freepmail box

I have read posts from people that have never posted on a religion thread that say they have come to believe some doctrine because of the "debates" here.

I firmly believe that God will use the discussions to make people consider their doctrine.

On the sovereignty of God issue. We would say that doctrinally the "Arminian " position presents man as sovereign over God until they are saved..(and for some that believe in the ability to lose your salvation man is sovereign over God forever )

When I was a Wesleyan I always said that I believed God was totally sovereign , because I did not consider Man choosing to be saved as sovereign over God. But of course it is because it allows man to refuse the grace of God.