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What if you take the arguments of the other side seriously, which is that many bishops don't want the traditional priesthood, perhaps because they do longer hold to the traditional Catholic faith in the Eucharist.

Because the arguments of the other side don't deserve to be taken seriously. There's no proof that American bishops are trying to destroy the priesthood. Just conjecture, based on prejudice.

And what you say is not conjecture? I do not doubt the legitimacy of the mass, but like my old hero Jacques Maritain, I have always wondered why Rome did not simply translate the old mass , which developed over a period of one thousand years,into the national tongue. Surely you know that only a few Catholics wanted any radical changes in the liturgy, and that for everyone who was pleased, there was someone else who was disconcerted by the changes.

Do you know what the changes reminded me of: the switchover into the New Math in the public schools during the 1960s. It was nothing more than the old theory of aggregates and modern geometry applied to create a logical consistency into the math curriculum. That it did. But it went over the heads of many high school teachers and you can imagine how it was received by elementary teachers. Well, it was a complete failure and the worst thing is that after it was done away with, the math curriculum that replaced it was much worse than the pre-new math one. The reformers had exorcised the old rote math but now worse devils entered in in its place.

Because the arguments of the other side don't deserve to be taken seriously. There's no proof that American bishops are trying to destroy the priesthood. Just conjecture, based on prejudice.

Then why the reticence to welcome FSSP priests instead of assigning womyn to lead a parish? Seems like this is becoming fairly common in a lot of places.

Because the arguments of the other side don't deserve to be taken seriously. There's no proof that American bishops are trying to destroy the priesthood. Just conjecture, based on prejudice.

Yeah, this coming from the guy who condemned Goodbye Good Men by Michael Rose before he even read it. There is evidence. You chose to ignore and disregard it because it is devastating to your pet issue.

The proof is in the numbers. The conservative dioceses are producing seminarians and priests. The liberal dioceses are struggling badly. "By their fruits shall ye know them."

We're not stupid here.