[SoothingDave]

Random lumps and bruises??? Shame on you.

Spare me. I meant no disrespect. "Random" indicates that they make no pattern, like stigmata do.

Which was my point, that stigmata are "the marks of the Lord Jesus" in a significant (literally) way that random marks are not.

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[drstevej]

***"the marks of the Lord Jesus"***

Your reasoning is circular Dave. You read your desired meaning into Paul's term and then argue from the term.

The phrase can refer as easily to the marks Jesus received in his scouraging as it can to the marks received in nailing Him to the cross.

Paul, in context, makes no statement that these marks were supernaturally manifest in his body. You assume they are.

Prove that these marks were supernatural and "non-random." Cite evidence that they were such.

Otherwise, you present pure speculation as having biblical support. Not wise.