Augustine is the father of the Roman Catholic church.
[sigh] What is wrong with these statements, given the following (also a quote from you)?
First, it would not matter what any Church Father said about anything, only what the Scripture says.
You keep sticking your foot in your mouth, because you dance all around. When it suits your purpose, nothing but scripture is authoritative. When that doesn't work, you trot out quotes from others and present them as authoritative. You can't have it both ways. OP gave you a whole list of scriptures, and you demanded commentary from others. Yet 6 posts earlier, you declare that it doesn't matter what any Church Father says, only what scripture says. Make up your mind, and take a stand on one or the other!
Hey, you nitwit, I was only responding to the Calvinist misinformation that Predestination was always taught.
I never said it was wrong because it was taught later, only that Predestination was taught later, and that Wesley was returning to the earlier church in his teachings, not stopping with Augustine.
That does not make Wesley right, only that it is a fact that Predestination was not the original teachings of the early church.
Don't bring up the Fathers again and I won't since I could care less what they taught or didn't teach.
Now, it is clear you cannot even deal with a simple request to honor what you told me you would do, stop pinging me with you inane posts!
You really are quite dense and not even half as intelligent as you think you are!