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Oh, gee, It's KINDERGARTEN THEOLOGY time!! ~~ Well thanks for the reminder that God has called me to better things than "debating" with you and your crowd.

Mister Rogers was a devout and morally-constructive Presbyterian Elder who did more good for the Kindergarteners of America than 100 years of Publik Skooling and 50 years of PBS combined. America would do well if she still had "Kindergarten Theology" such as this (compared to most Publik Skooling, anyway). So what are you complaining about?

At any rate, you're just whining, Corin.

You actually think that Christians should be ALL UP IN A HUFF over matters which the Roman Church debated, from Augustine to Gottschalk, for some 600 years. As if Christians are incapable of Debating Theology without taking it Personally.

Well, shucks -- you know what? Take it personally, brother. I never said one word against you personally, but you can accuse me if you want to.

Just assume that God intended to replace the Church of Jesus Christ with the HERETIKOS Church of Arminianism. And assume that any criticism thereof constitutes a "personal attack" on you. Just assume it.

If you want to believe that constitutes a "Personal Attack" -- hey, I can't stop you.

Mister Rogers was a devout and morally-constructive Presbyterian Elder who did more good for the Kindergarteners of America than 100 years of Publik Skooling and 50 years of PBS combined.

I am well acquainted with Mr. Rogers. I have a friend who on a number of occasions escorted him around her city on PR tours. I have a great deal of respect for him.

If you want to believe that constitutes a "Personal Attack"

You guys have a history of trying to say I've called something an "attack" or a "threat." Please point me to the link where I said you "personally attacked" me.

You did provide a chart that lists Calvinists as "believers" and Wesleyans as "heretics." So, I guess it is kinda personal, but I never said you attacked me.

I did note that I believe you and many of your compatriots, while you say otherwise, don't really consider us Wesleyans to be saved. If what we believe hinges on what you call "the lie of Eden" how can we trust you when you call us heretics out of one side of your mouth and "brethren" out of the other?

So you see, I'm not whining at all. Just pointing out the way I see things.

I actually came here to agree with you that Servetus is irrelevant to the teachings of Calvin. I shoulda stopped there.

Instead, I'll stop here.