I am well acquainted with Mr. Rogers. I have a friend who on a number of occasions escorted him around her city on PR tours. I have a great deal of respect for him.
If you want to believe that constitutes a "Personal Attack"
You guys have a history of trying to say I've called something an "attack" or a "threat." Please point me to the link where I said you "personally attacked" me.
You did provide a chart that lists Calvinists as "believers" and Wesleyans as "heretics." So, I guess it is kinda personal, but I never said you attacked me.
I did note that I believe you and many of your compatriots, while you say otherwise, don't really consider us Wesleyans to be saved. If what we believe hinges on what you call "the lie of Eden" how can we trust you when you call us heretics out of one side of your mouth and "brethren" out of the other?
So you see, I'm not whining at all. Just pointing out the way I see things.
I actually came here to agree with you that Servetus is irrelevant to the teachings of Calvin. I shoulda stopped there.
Instead, I'll stop here.
Okay, we obviously disagree on this point, but let me explain it ONE MORE TIME -- when you Arminians attack the Gospel of John 3:3 (Calvinism), you are attacking the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It's NOT PERSONAL!!
I've never taken it as Personal. Why should I? You're attacking the Gospel of Jesus Christ... NOT ME, OP, the individual. By the same token, when I (correctly) Identify the Arminian "I am Able to Choose For God or Against God" dogma as the historically-factual definition of the term HERETIKOS... it's not personal.
It's strictly Business. Christians who love the Lord whould not willingly sell their spiritual endorsements to satanic HERETIKOS.
I did note that I believe you and many of your compatriots, while you say otherwise, don't really consider us Wesleyans to be saved. If what we believe hinges on what you call "the lie of Eden" how can we trust you when you call us heretics out of one side of your mouth and "brethren" out of the other?
Believe whatever you want. If you think that Calvinists do not believe in your own Salvation, fine -- think that of us if you want.
You forget what we believe -- God saves whom he pleases. Why should this not include Errant Arminians as well and Errant Romanists?
Methinks you find too much "judgment", where Calvinists find simply duty.
Is your FreeWill-ism a blasphemous heresy against God and Christ? Well, yeah, sure -- of course it is; has been ever since the Days of the Sadducees. That's a simple matter of History. But is that Heresy beyond the forgiveness of Jesus' Blood? Nope, never said anything of the sort. It's a Blaspheming Heresy which you have a Christian Duty to Repent in odebience to Christ, that's the matter.
I never said it was about "avoiding hell" or "securing heaven", just Righteous Christian Obedience to Jesus, simple as that.
Looks like someone was just picking a fight!