[sinkspur]

Excuse me, but John XXIII, who devised "this kind of hideous practice" is the one who convened VC II.

If you think this "practice" is a novelty with John XXIII, you're truly dense.

Sexual abuse was rampant under Pius XII, and, likely under prior popes, but victims were treated just as shabbily.

Clerical abuse of children is the sin in the Church that dare not speak its name.

[Land of the Irish]

Can you quote Pius XII's, and prior popes', instructions on how to dance around sexual crimes?

Just because abuses occurred during reigns of prior popes, doesn't mean those popes gave "hideoous (your word, not mine) " instructions such as "Blessed" John XXIII did.

[Polycarp]

Sexual abuse was rampant under Pius XII, and, likely under prior popes

W#hat objective data do you have to substantiate this claim, Sink?

[ultima ratio]

The statistics for sex abuse shot up after Vatican II. Look at the recently published annals of complaints for the Boston archdiocese. Prior to the late sixties there were very few complaints against priests. Immediately after the Council the numbers shot up.

[Antoninus]

Sexual abuse was rampant under Pius XII, and, likely under prior popes, but victims were treated just as shabbily.

Argument from lack of evidence is a tactic best left to the feminist and homo-promo agit prop types. Either produce *solid proof* of these false statements, or quit making them.