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Lawyers eye former pope's blueprint to shield clergy
Boston Herald.com ^
| Wednesday, July 30, 2003
| Robin Washington
Posted on 07/31/2003 8:21:16 PM PDT by Land of the Irish
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To: sinkspur
In its externals, no (IMO). But, you're welcome to think differently.
Thanks for giving me permission to dissent from you, deacon. And dissent I do. There were nearly 1 billion Catholics before 1965. The pre-Vatican II Church must have been doing something right with those 'externals.'
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posted on
08/01/2003 7:56:57 PM PDT
by
Antoninus
(In hoc signo, vinces †)
To: Antoninus
The story of Mary Magdalen was, no doubt, used by Roger Mahoney to justify his $200 million monstrosity.
Either we're going to live like Christ in all things, or we're going to be like the young man who went away, sad, "because he had many possessions."
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posted on
08/01/2003 7:57:51 PM PDT
by
sinkspur
("Boy, watch that knife!'" Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton in "The Searchers")
To: Antoninus
There were nearly 1 billion Catholics before 1965. There are more, now.
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posted on
08/01/2003 7:59:56 PM PDT
by
sinkspur
("Boy, watch that knife!'" Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton in "The Searchers")
To: sinkspur
I'm not Episcopalian.
Could have fooled me...
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posted on
08/01/2003 8:00:45 PM PDT
by
Antoninus
(In hoc signo, vinces †)
To: sinkspur
So you sold all that you have and gave it to the poor?
To: Thorondir
"Diabolically disoriented" clergy was supposedly part of the Fatima prophecies.
To: Antoninus
Could have fooled me... You're young. It'll happen again.
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posted on
08/01/2003 8:03:54 PM PDT
by
sinkspur
("Boy, watch that knife!'" Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton in "The Searchers")
To: sinkspur
The story of Mary Magdalen was, no doubt, used by Roger Mahoney to justify his $200 million monstrosity.
Personally, I would have had no problem if he had spent $200 million on the most beautiful cathedral the world had ever seen as a fitting shrine to the One True God as present on the altar in the Holy Eucharist. Instead, he (purposely in my opinion) created a hideous postmodern airplane hangar that bears no resemblance to Church architecture and tradition, and ignores the centrality of the Eucharist to the point of hiding the tabernacle and making a mere table the centerpiece.
Your starting to sound like an 8th century iconoclast. So much for "progress."
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posted on
08/01/2003 8:07:20 PM PDT
by
Antoninus
(In hoc signo, vinces †)
To: sinkspur
Could have fooled me...
You're young. It'll happen again.
Not by you again, hoss.
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posted on
08/01/2003 8:08:46 PM PDT
by
Antoninus
(In hoc signo, vinces †)
To: sinkspur
An oh-so-clevery-crafted quip, but stupid and directed at one of your betters, sinkspur. It's not going to win you any points here. We all know you too well for that.
To: Antoninus
Personally, I would have had no problem if he had spent $200 million on the most beautiful cathedral the world had ever seen as a fitting shrine to the One True God as present on the altar in the Holy Eucharist. I would. Excess is excess. Spend $50 million, and take the other $150 million and spread it around to the 235 dioceses so that bishops who've harbored abusers can buy oil and pour it over the feet of the victims.
That would be money well spent, both in its reality and its symbolism.
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posted on
08/01/2003 8:11:48 PM PDT
by
sinkspur
("Boy, watch that knife!'" Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton in "The Searchers")
To: sinkspur
They are, for the most part, now gone. Things like gloves for bishops, lace vestments for priests, gold mitres and jeweled rings...
...along with reliquaries, images of the saints, crucifixes, holy water dispensers, beautiful stained glass windows, altar rails, and ornate baldaccinos. Tabernacles have been moved to the basement, the Body of Christ stored "in a closet" (as Fr. Corapi would say), crackers are used for communion and placed in your hand by perfumed ladies wearing gold, lace and rings much bigger than those the priest used to wear.
What an improvement. I'm sure Jesus is thrilled.
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posted on
08/01/2003 8:16:15 PM PDT
by
Antoninus
(In hoc signo, vinces †)
To: Antoninus
That wouldn't be the American College at Louvain, would it? He obtained his doctorate of theology at the Catholic University of Louvain.
To: Antoninus
I'm sure Jesus is thrilled. On this, we agree.
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posted on
08/01/2003 8:18:19 PM PDT
by
sinkspur
("Boy, watch that knife!'" Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton in "The Searchers")
To: sinkspur
On this, we agree.
Nope. I'm happy to agree with you on a few select political matters. On religious and moral matters, the twain ain't gonna meet and that's perfectly fine with me.
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posted on
08/01/2003 8:21:21 PM PDT
by
Antoninus
(In hoc signo, vinces †)
To: sinkspur
When you judge the hierarchy harshly, you claim that as Catholic, when I do you accuse me of schism and heresy. Interesting, very interesting. I note you ignored the Gospel and tried to claim that somehow $50,000,000 would have been Catholic and $200,000,000 is not. How odd. Have you donated 75% of your wealth to charity?
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posted on
08/01/2003 8:21:59 PM PDT
by
narses
("The do-it-yourself Mass is ended. Go in peace" Francis Carindal Arinze of Nigeria)
To: Antoninus
AmChurch: Where the Body of Christ is hidden in a closet, and the priests aren't!
To: Thorondir
Thank you for your kind words.
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posted on
08/01/2003 8:25:21 PM PDT
by
narses
("The do-it-yourself Mass is ended. Go in peace" Francis Carindal Arinze of Nigeria)
To: Loyalist
LOL!
To: All
The Charity on this thread kills me!
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posted on
08/01/2003 8:28:36 PM PDT
by
Saint Athanasius
(How can there be too many children? That's like saying there are too many flowers - Mother Theresa)
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