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To: ThomasMore
If the clergyman is closeted, and most are, this will not be an easy task. However, this task is not impossible. Oaths; investigations where applicable... are a good start. Check out where the clergyman goes on his time off; whether he preaches against homosexality or is silent about it...Undercover investigations have worked as well. I have no reason to fear that in my life. But some out there do fear being exposed

You are a Deacon correct?

Tom you attend functions within your diocese , you must have a pretty good idea about most of them. My husband's pastor is flaming . He used to hold a position of some power in the diocese but the shortage of priests forced him to pastor.I believe according to RC beliefs as long as he is celibate there is no problem.

I will add this. It is a terrible image problem for the Catholic church to have swishing Pastors before the public eye.

I have heard non Catholics comment that "they are all gay". We both know that is not true. But in my diocese it sure seems tilted that way .

A strong stand by the church on this issue would be a very good first step

30 posted on 07/31/2003 9:02:11 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
You are a Deacon correct?

Yes.

Tom you attend functions within your diocese , you must have a pretty good idea about most of them.

I know about one quarter of the 256 active priests.  I also know some of the ones that are blatantly homosexual and a couple who are known widely for having gay affairs. The bishop has been told numerous times. One associate pastor was moved because of his "whistle blowing".  This is REAL spiritual warfare.

I believe according to RC beliefs as long as he is celibate there is no problem.

This is not so. Celibacy pertains to marriage and chastity (implicitly). This is a line of BS the libs have been pushing for some time; that is, I'm celibate so it don't matter! The hell it doesn't!

I will add this. It is a terrible image problem for the Catholic church to have swishing Pastors before the public eye.

You are absolutely right! It is SCANDALOUS!

I have heard non Catholics comment that "they are all gay". We both know that is not true. But in my diocese it sure seems tilted that way.

Some diocese have gay clergy at very high levels.  Even as bishops! (MORE SCANDAL) I believe that this has been the reason for so many to be able to infiltrate the ranks and further their agenda.  My diocese is not like that.  We are probably at the low end of the scale. I know all the priests and deacons in my deanery.  Not a one of them has an effeminate bone. Other deaneries have their problems, but overall the problem is less than usual in my diocese. BTW, effeminate priests are not a good attraction for future vocations.  This is part of the problem.  The "Harvest Master" has given us enough "harvesters", but many will not answer the call.

A strong stand by the church on this issue would be a very good first step.

The Church has always had a strong stand on homosexuality.  It gets beatup all the time for it.  But the liberal forces within the Church have worked against Her for years.  Pray for our perseverance.

41 posted on 07/31/2003 9:24:36 AM PDT by ThomasMore
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To: RnMomof7
**A strong stand by the church on this issue would be a very good first step**

You are so correct here!
45 posted on 07/31/2003 9:34:58 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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