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To: rogator
Along side of illicit songs, dancing girls and a platoon of "extaordinary ministers" (five plus the padre for a crowd of 150-300), I guess this fits right in.

You probably mean "here I am lord" "on eagles wings" "one bread one body" and all of the other Marty Haugen crappy songs? But sadly, I don't think they are illicit, just crappy banal songs. EEMs... what a can of worms! I've seen priests sit down while the EEMs give out Holy Communion. I've yet (thank you God) to see the liturgical dancing girls. I am kind of shy, but if that ever happens, I will quietly stand up and take my family outta there.

At least we still have valid communion; no corn tortilla or honey flavored stuff as I have seen elsewhere.

Some of the biggest, most thriving parishes have illicit matter for Communion. I think that's what happens when we start to adopt the thought process that externals don't matter - start small and end up being another religion entirely.

37 posted on 07/17/2003 9:31:11 AM PDT by american colleen
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To: american colleen
You probably mean "here I am lord" "on eagles wings" "one bread one body" and all of the other Marty Haugen crappy songs?

Umm, Marty Haugan didn't write any of those. Here I Am Lord, I'm not sure, but "On Eagles Wings" is Michael Joncas and "ONe Bread, One Body" is John Foley, S.J. And in "On Eagles Wings", it's not the lyrics, it's the music. Those lyrics are largely biblical quotes.

Marty Haugen gives us stuff like, "Eye Has Not Seen" and "Blest Are They" and "SHephard Me O God" and the amazingly hard to make beautiful Mass of Creation. For that alone he should be banned.
43 posted on 07/17/2003 9:42:26 AM PDT by Desdemona
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To: american colleen
AC

By illicit I mean songs such as: "See Us Lord, About Your Altar."(OCP Today’s Missal Music Issue) A nice hymn from the Protestant Tradition. The third verse, however, reads:
“Once were seen the blood and water: Now is seen but bread and wine; Once in human form he (sic) suffered, Now his (sic) form is but a sign.”

This does'nt exactly support Catholic belief in the Real Presence; but then again, I am not sure Charles Wesley believed in the Real Presence.
62 posted on 07/17/2003 11:51:21 AM PDT by rogator
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