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Dear Desdemona,

"Okay fine, is the NO harmful? I think in a way it is. It's banal and mediocre."

So harmful to souls as to be justification for violating one's vow of obedience to one's bishop? If you answer yes, be forewarned, you have essentially gone over to ultima's camp. To be consistent, you must leave us in our Novus Ordo church, and seek out Tridentine-onlyism.

As to your very poor excuse, then, about the Latin Mass being an hour away, heck, if the new rite is sufficiently harmful to justify violating a SACRED VOW, then how can you avoid traveling a mere hour to make the old rite Mass?

"I am one who has shown up to sing for Mass - dressed nicely, hair curled, warmed up and everything - and been told, oh, we had other plans. That happened at least once a year. I've even had solos prepared and they were cut."

That is rude and disgusting, and there is no excuse for it.

"I put up with it for 13 years before I finally said enough, basically because I was overloaded as it was."

Look how you describe your experience, that you were "putting up with it". And, in justice, you finally said, "enough", probably long after it was just.

So why was it okay for this priest to rudely dump on his own flock?

"So my question to you is, is the priest going to jump off a bridge under the guise of obedience if the bishop tells him to? He took a sacred vow after all."

If you are going to compare saying the normative Mass of the Latin Church to jumping off a bridge, then there is little sense in trying to discuss it with you, Desdemona. Usually, jumping off bridges is inherently harmful. Usually, going to a properly-celebrated Mass of Pope Paul VI is inherently good for you.

Do you no longer understand the difference?

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Please, read my post a little more closely. I said that Latin Mass is at an hour WHEN I AM WORKING. It is only 25 minutes, but because I need the income I have to work in a protestant church because Catholics don't pay.

It isn't good enough, but I'm not about to leave. And I don't think the occasional bucking of the rules in this way is horrid. I'd rather see men like this stand up and fight than knuckle under or slink away. The vows are being abused by the bishops in this way just as much. But maybe that's just the American in me talking.

I put up with a lot in my last parish to SERVE THE PEOPLE. That was the only thing that held me. The people who were touched by it. And they're still asking my mother where I am and am I coming back.

I understand a lot now. And one of those things is that there is a group of people who have some visceral reaction to any mention of restoring Latin Mass. Even the suggestion that they might have to attend one. Ever wonder why that is?

Funny how important obedience becomes when a Novus Ordo bishop is being resisted. Yet the same bishops routinely disregard the commands of the Pope himself in liturgical matters. Many of the innovations that have become permanent were made so because of initial acts of disobedience on the part of Novus Ordo bishops and priests. This bishop, in particular, had disobeyed the papal injunction to be "generous" toward those faithful desirous of attending the Old Mass. This papal assertion apparently went in one ear and out the other.

Also have to laugh at your continual recitation of the claim that the Novus Ordo--which is profoundly unCatholic--is the "normative" Mass--as if by reciting this mantra often enough you will make it so. But nothing will ever make the Novus Ordo anything more than a bad turn on the road to salvation, the cataclysmic event that Ratzinger has cited as the cause for a reversal of the Church's fortunes in modern times. It is a concoction dreamed up by a liberal claque. As such it purports to replace the ancient Mass of over a thousand years that had been shaped and guided by the Holy Spirit throughout the ages.