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To: sitetest
Please, read my post a little more closely. I said that Latin Mass is at an hour WHEN I AM WORKING. It is only 25 minutes, but because I need the income I have to work in a protestant church because Catholics don't pay.

It isn't good enough, but I'm not about to leave. And I don't think the occasional bucking of the rules in this way is horrid. I'd rather see men like this stand up and fight than knuckle under or slink away. The vows are being abused by the bishops in this way just as much. But maybe that's just the American in me talking.

I put up with a lot in my last parish to SERVE THE PEOPLE. That was the only thing that held me. The people who were touched by it. And they're still asking my mother where I am and am I coming back.

I understand a lot now. And one of those things is that there is a group of people who have some visceral reaction to any mention of restoring Latin Mass. Even the suggestion that they might have to attend one. Ever wonder why that is?
143 posted on 07/05/2003 8:06:41 PM PDT by Desdemona
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To: Desdemona
Dear Desdemona,

I'm sorry I misunderstood this post, about timing and the old rite, for you.

But Desdemona, if the new rite is sufficiently harmful to souls as to justify VIOLATING ONE'S SACRED VOWS, then certainly you cannot justify continuing to go to the new rite, even at the cost of some of your income, no? After all, the new rite is harmful to your soul! Harmful enough to justify a priest's violating his vow of obedience not to say the old rite publicly (even though he'd been permitted to say it privately)! What's a little money when your soul is on the line?

Listen, Desdemona, if you REALLY believed the new rite is actually harmful to souls, I don't think you'd hesitate to do the right thing. But I don't think you really believe that. And thus, the priest's disobedience was entirely unjustified, even as the bishop's refusal for any public indult Masses his dioceses is probably unjustified, as well.


sitetest
156 posted on 07/05/2003 8:31:44 PM PDT by sitetest
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To: Desdemona
I understand a lot now. And one of those things is that there is a group of people who have some visceral reaction to any mention of restoring the Latin Mass.

I have noticed that too. I have described it as akin to facing a vampire with a crucifix. They actually recoil.

Although I am stumbling with this,I guess I believe that the Latin Mass is steeped in the supernatural and all that is good,beautiful and true. It is man's best and noblest attempt to adore,worship,thank and petition God,and those that recognize this that are of the "evil one" know this and hate it with a passion that they cannot control. Thus it is visible on their faces and in their gestures. Otherwise they are quite able to lie with a smile and a look of genuine concern but for some reason they fear the power of the Mass. Just some thoughts that have crept into my mind,what do you think?

198 posted on 07/05/2003 10:49:27 PM PDT by saradippity
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