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To: pram
I would not be counted in your list above; but I think my socially conservative "bona fides" would be satisfactory to most here. I would like to take part in your experiment, if the others here do not get bent out of shape.

Pram, I must tell you that, though your socially conservative bona fides are better than most here, at least as measured by your courageous witness to traditional values on the Culture Wars threads on the News Forum, others here will get bent out of shape. Frankly, you are doing more to spread our gospel than many of the hypocrites here in the Religion Forum Ghetto who would condemn you to hell in the blink of an eye and not think twice about it, yet are too cowardly to engage the real battles you engage here daily.

But Jesus has the last Word. He judges according to His Word, not their false interpretations of it. I see you as more of a brother in Christ than many who claim and proclaim the necessity of John 3:16.

106 posted on 06/29/2003 8:05:22 AM PDT by Polycarp (To all hiding out in theReligionForumGhetto-It's time to fight the CultureOfDeath on the NewsForum)
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To: Polycarp; God is good; fortheDeclaration; Dr. Eckleburg; RnMomof7; Jean Chauvin; Antoninus; ...
THERE IS A LOT TO DIGEST HERE PLEASE TAKE TIME TO PONDER THE WORDS WRITTEN IN THE SCRIPTURES!

To all hiding out in theReligionForumGhetto-It's time to fight the CultureOfDeath on the NewsForum

So this is you solution to a Spiritual War!
It's time to fight the CultureOfDeath on the NewsForum

Eph.6
10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

19 And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,

20 For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.

21 But that ye also may know my affairs, and how I do, Tychicus, a beloved brother and faithful minister in the Lord, shall make known to you all things:

22 Whom I have sent unto you for the same purpose, that ye might know our affairs, and that he might comfort your hearts.

23 Peace be to the brethren, and love with faith, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

24 Grace be with all them that love our Lord Jesus Christ in sincerity. Amen.

Things to think about!

Prince; All verses relate to PRINCE The rebel Lucifer/Satan Who was created prefect and later was found with iniquity therefore being unclean wss thrown out of heaven but retain the rank of Prince!

prin·ci·pal·i·ties. 1. A territory ruled by a prince or from which a prince derives his title. 2. The position, authority, or jurisdiction of a prince; sovereignty. 3. principalities. Theology. The seventh of the nine orders of angels. Also called In this sense, also called, princedoms.

In this bit of knowlegde of order Lucifer/Satan seemed to obtained the 7th order or rank! As read in (Eph.6;12)

He never reached the an order to received a mortal body, yet Satan does for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed. (Eph.6;28) .

He will never be able to have an increase in rank or order, even thoough he can reek havoc!

Gen.32
24 ¶ And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled a man with him until the breaking of the day.

25 And when he saw that he prevailed not against him, he touched the hollow of his thigh; and the hollow of Jacob’s thigh was out of joint, as he wrestled with him.

26 And he said, Let me go, for the day breaketh. And he said, I will not let thee go, except thou bless me.

27 And he said unto him, What is thy name? And he said, Jacob.

28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.

29 And Jacob asked him, and said, Tell me, I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore is it that thou dost ask after my name? And he blessed him there.

30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.

31 And as he passed over Penuel the sun rose upon him, and he halted upon his thigh.

32 Therefore the children of Israel eat not of the sinew which shrank, which is upon the hollow of the thigh, unto this day: because he touched the hollow of Jacob’s thigh in the sinew that shrank.

So this Evil dued Lucifer/Satan is an angel/prince who only obtain the 7the order in rank.

The son of man is also angel/prince who obtain 8th order for we also have a mortal body who someday receive a body of flesh and bone which will immmortal for all eternity!

The Evil dude can never recieve a mortal body nor any increase in order or rank!

I pray you will search the scriptures more and ponder these things in the name of Jesus Christ!

112 posted on 06/29/2003 10:28:44 AM PDT by restornu (When ye are in the service of your fellow beings ye are only in the service of your God.)
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To: Polycarp
James 4:11
Brothers, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against his
brother or judges him speaks against the law and judges it. When you
judge the law, you are not keeping it, but sitting in judgment on it.


...the hypocrites here in the Religion Forum Ghetto who would condemn you to hell in the blink of an eye and not think twice about it, yet are too cowardly to engage the real battles...


I think it would be good to consider whether this assessment might be inaccurate at best, and based upon a lack of both historical perspective and accurate data regarding the activities of other posters.

1 Chronicles 5:20
They were helped in fighting them, and God handed the Hagrites
and all their allies over to them, because they cried out to him
during the battle. He answered their prayers, because they trusted in him.

1 Chronicles 5:22
and many others fell slain, because the battle was God's. And they
occupied the land until the exile.

2 Chronicles 20:15
....This is what the LORD says to you: 'Do not be afraid or
discouraged because of this vast army. For the battle is not yours, but
God's.

Isaiah 28:6
He will be a spirit of justice to him who sits in judgment, a source of
strength to those who turn back the battle at the gate.

Romans 14: 4
Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he
stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.

DG

116 posted on 06/29/2003 11:04:18 AM PDT by DoorGunner (DG=Fool, Liar, and sinner, [and apparently doesn't have a "life."] (Non Hæretico Comburendo))
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To: Polycarp
Thank you for your kind and generous words. In addition to what I emailed you personally some time ago, I do accept Jesus Christ as the Good Son of God, pray to Him, and worship of Him is not contradictory to informed Hindu beliefs and religious understanding.

I will continue to fight against evil, and I honor all those who do, no matter which scripture they read.

There are only two religions of the world - that which worships God, the Supreme Person and author of all that is, and those who worship His creation out of lust, ignoring both the Owner and His laws, trying to usurp His position for themselves out of envy.

And I think this is becoming more and more clear.
130 posted on 06/29/2003 12:02:25 PM PDT by First Amendment
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