1 posted on
06/25/2003 9:49:27 AM PDT by
ninenot
To: sinkspur; ELS; BlackElk; Aquinasfan; NYer; Catholicguy; Desdemona; maryz; patent; narses; ...
Looks as though Rockford has it figured out, but you have to really dig into the article to find the substance: not only "Partnered," but wanting to ADOPT!!!
2 posted on
06/25/2003 9:51:04 AM PDT by
ninenot
(Joe McCarthy was RIGHT, but Drank Too Much)
To: Alberta's Child; Aloysius; AniGrrl; Antoninus; Bellarmine; BlackElk; Canticle_of_Deborah; ...
PING
3 posted on
06/25/2003 9:52:32 AM PDT by
Loyalist
(Keeper of the Schismatic Orc Ping List. Freepmail me if you want on or off it.)
To: ninenot
One of many problems with the article - it doesn't sound like the author understands what a vow is. There's a difference between leading a chaste life (which all of us should be doing, regardless of our state in life) and taking a vow.
If, as a Catholic, you aren't married (and these guys certainly aren't and never can be), you live a celibate life until you are, or try to. But no one forces you to take a vow!
To: ninenot
Everybody I talked to was shocked that someone with this much talent, who did so much for the church, would be pinpointed for his personal lifestyle.
The Church ain't about "talent" sister. Sorry, but the homo-inclined have already done too much damage to the Church.
Either live according to Church teaching or get out.
5 posted on
06/25/2003 10:13:59 AM PDT by
Antoninus
(In hoc signo, vinces †)
To: ninenot
In a further development, the church will begin singing hymns at Mass rather than the customary show tunes.
9 posted on
06/25/2003 10:30:17 AM PDT by
JohnnyZ
(I barbeque with Sweet Baby Ray's)
To: ninenot
10 posted on
06/25/2003 10:31:20 AM PDT by
Antoninus
(In hoc signo, vinces †)
To: ninenot
The incident is shameful, said Mary Zuba, a member of St. James Church on Second Street in Rockford and half of the first same-sex couple to adopt a nonrelated child in Illinois. And I'm sure her pastor gives her communion every time this "family" comes to Church, without blinking an eye. For shame!
To: ninenot
I was honest. I walked out of the office without a job, but I had my dignity, A rump-rangering sort of dignity, that is!
To: ninenot
Chief Archangel Cast Out Over Refusal to Bow Some agree with the decision to cast out Archangel who wouldnt promise obedience; others dont.
HEAVEN The Bringer of Light at the Throne of God had a choice: give up his desire to be like God or lose his job.
When Archangel Lucifer Morningstar refused to bow before the Throne last eon, he was cast down from his position at the top of the Angelic Hierarchy. I was honest. I walked out of Heaven without a job, but I had my dignity, Lucifer said. This shouldnt happen to anybody. Maybe Michael and the rest of them have no problem with all that grovelling, but I am the most beautiful and powerful of all the Angels, and I refuse to bow down to anybody. Non serviam -- I will not serve."
14 posted on
06/25/2003 10:50:01 AM PDT by
B-Chan
(Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
To: ninenot
Monsignor David Kagan bump!
Bill Stein and his CINO supporters need to read the following and if they don't like it, leave the Church.
Chastity and homosexuality
2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,141 tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered."142 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.
2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.
2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.
To: ninenot
The controversy over his homosexuality began three months ago, Why didn't it begin five years ago?
Indeed, why was the guy even hired in the first place, if he had a partner?
It apparently was no secret to the parishioners that he was gay.
Is it just now embarrassing to the diocese that an openly gay man was a music director?
Is it the sin that is the problem, or the fact that he drew attention to himself with his adoption plans?
These are honest questions. Sounds like somebody was looking the other way until they got caught.
19 posted on
06/25/2003 11:22:03 AM PDT by
sinkspur
To: ninenot
From writing that Stein was fired because he "refused to take a vow of chastity" (BS, Edith, and you know it, you freepin' looney tune) to quoting Stein using that buzzward of "gay" Catholics, "dignity," this is nothing but a dissident hit piece.
To: ninenot
Perhaps he refused to bang an altar boy in a three-way?
To: ninenot
Great to hear that some authorities are striving to keep the Church Catholic. I just wish our new bishop here in Lexington, KY would do something about the priest who recently baptized the four in-vitro fertilized children of a homosexual CINO couple here (surrogate mother and all) at our cathedral parish. It is clear that these guys have no intention to raise these children in anything remotely resembling the Catholic faith. That is an essential promise in order for the baptism to take place, if I am not mistaken. It was in the news a few weeks ago that they even want to do it all over again!
Our esteemed new mayor, also a CINO, proclaimed in the local bird cage liner that she has never been prouder to be a Catholic! We're in trouble here.
40 posted on
06/25/2003 7:30:31 PM PDT by
GenXFreedomFighter
(I keep chasing the carrot, but all I get is the STICK!)
To: ninenot
45 posts later, and no one has picked up on this yet. The day is mine!
Stein was hired five years ago to play organ
You can't make quotes like this up.
46 posted on
06/26/2003 6:40:17 AM PDT by
Alex Murphy
(Athanasius contra mundum!)
To: Cyrano
Interesting article, o music director.
49 posted on
06/26/2003 8:50:22 AM PDT by
Terriergal
("You slaughtered my children and sacrificed them to the idols...." Ez 16:21)
To: ninenot
During his tenure he oversaw the purchase and installation of a $777,000 pipe organ,Gee!! He was able to buy a pipe organ for less than a million dollars!!
Impressive!!! [/sarcasm]
Eaker
54 posted on
06/26/2003 9:42:27 AM PDT by
Eaker
(Adiós reality; I want to be a Jack-Ass millionaire!!............;<)
To: ninenot
I'm gonna give this guy a little bit of credit for, at this point, being honest about his intentions to continue to live in a state of sin. At least he is not pretending to be in harmony with Rome like the controceptive "Catholics" that no doubt weep for his ouster.
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