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To: Quester
Aspects of the sign/wonder which argue persuasively for the interpretation of the sign as Israel ...

Let me first say that I am very open to the idea of the text, especially such as the Apocalypse being mutl-layered. If Isaiah can predict King Ahiz's baby and Jesus, then this can be about Israel and Mary.

Anyway.

The woman's crown of twelve stars (per the twelve tribes of Israel) vs. 1

Ahem. Who is (besides Jesus) the most favored, most excellently chosen, most worthy individual to ever come out of the entire Hebrew people?

Mary. She is the crown jewel of the race, the one chosen to bring about the Messiah. She is Queen of them all, made to bring about the King of all nations.

A crown with 12 stars you would deny her?

The dragon's persecution and homicidal pursuit of the woman (anti-semitism) vss. 13, 15

I thought we just talked about the flight to Egypt? Didn't the dragon try to persue the woman and kill her offspring?

Didn't Herod try to find the offspring and kill it?

Also, one could pesher that many today still persecute the woman, Mary, by various means.

SD

320 posted on 06/25/2003 7:56:41 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
A crown with 12 stars you would deny her?

Of course not.

I am, simply, saying that, scripturally, the correspondence (12 stars - 12 tribes) dovetails best with Israel.

I thought we just talked about the flight to Egypt? Didn't the dragon try to persue the woman and kill her offspring?

Didn't Herod try to find the offspring and kill it?


As is noted in a related post (# 322), the Herodian persecution of the family ended with the death of Herod, ... rather early in JESUS' life.

Once again, the persistent persecution of the woman (who did not have her child with her by the way ... the child was snatched up to heaven by God) ...

... which we find described, ... particularly, in verses 15 and 16 of Revelation 12, ...

... corresponds best with Israel, ... who, though JESUS has ascended, ... still face an otherwise irrational persecution even to this day.

Also, one could pesher that many today still persecute the woman, Mary, by various means.

Persecuted in heaven ... how would that be ?

324 posted on 06/25/2003 8:26:08 AM PDT by Quester
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