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He's An Only Child -- A response to a Protestant argument against Mary's perpetual virginity
Envoy Magazine ^ | Ronald K. Tacelli, S.J.

Posted on 06/23/2003 2:36:07 PM PDT by Patrick Madrid



  

He's an Only Child
A bogus Greek argument against Mary's perpetual virginity is making the rounds.

By Ronald K. Tacelli, S.J.

Recently, in some Internet discussion groups, a few Protestant apologists have been expending quite a bit of energy trying to refute the Catholic doctrine of the Blessed Virgin Mary's perpetual virginity. "Ho hum", you might be saying to yourself. "What's new or interesting about that? The 'Mary-had-other-children' canard has been effectively demolished by Catholic apologists a hundred times over. Who cares about this latest twist on a worn-out claim?"

 

My reaction, each time Professor McCrossen ranted about this, was: What's the big deal? No reasonable person would take the phrase "He knew her not until she gave birth" as somehow proving that he never knew her at all. Why rail away against a position no sensible person is likely to take anyway?
Well, as one who believes in Mary's perpetual virginity, I care, and you should, too. You see, this new argument is based on two Greek terms that mean "until": heos and heos hou.

These Protestant critics of Mary's perpetual virginity are training their guns on Matthew 1:25, claiming that the Greek term for "until" used by St. Matthew - heos hou - implies a reversal or cessation of the condition that is expressed in the clause preceding it. Thus they're attempting to show from linguistic evidence alone that Scripture contradicts the Catholic dogma of Mary's perpetual virginity. And that is a very big deal.

These Internet Intellectuals willingly admit that the Greek word heos all by itself does not imply any such reversal or cessation. This is true of 1 Timothy 4:13, for example: "[heos] I come, attend to the public reading of scripture." But in Matthew 1:25, heos is not used by itself; the word for "until" is heos hou. And in the New Testament heos hou always indicates reversal of the preceding clause - or so they claim. One of the Protestant apologists involved in this Internet argument wrote:

"We have insisted that the basic meaning of heos hou in the New Testament, when it means 'until,' always implies a change of the action in the main clause" (emphasis in the original).

Now if this were true it would indeed indicate that there is linguistic reason for denying the teaching of the Catholic Church on Mary's perpetual virginity. So on that little conjunction, heos hou, a great deal seems to depend.

My old history professor at Boston College, Vincent McCrossen, God rest his soul, used to scream at us in class: "Matthew 1:25, where it says that Joseph did not know Mary until she had given birth to Jesus, does not - repeat: does not - prove that Mary was perpetually a virgin!" He went on to say (or rather scream) that the Greek word for "until" (heos) leaves the matter open. It does not necessarily imply that what didn't happen before the birth (ie. Joseph's "knowing" Mary) did happen after it.

My reaction, each time Professor McCrossen ranted about this, was: What's the big deal? No reasonable person would take the phrase "He knew her not until she gave birth" as somehow proving that he never knew her at all. Why rail away against a position no sensible person is likely to take anyway?

That was my first reaction. But upon further reflection, part of what he said seemed reasonable. Even in English the word "until" need not imply that what didn't happen before some point in time did happen after it.

Think of Granny. She started taking an antibiotic last night; this morning her skin has broken out in welts. We call the doctor and he tells us: "Don't give her any of that medicine until I get there!" In this case the word "until" means pretty much the same as "before"; and there is no implication that Granny will get the medicine after the doctor arrives. In fact, it's implied that she probably won't. So I concluded at the time: Better to say that Matthew 1:25 does not disprove Mary's perpetual virginity; that considered in itself and from the point of view of language alone it does indeed leave the matter open. Catholics can read it as consistent with their Faith; Protestants, as consistent with theirs. Both readings are possible. In any case, it's no big deal. Right?

Wrong. The heos hou argument is bogus.

I'm fluent in classical and koine Greek (koine is the simpler style of Greek used by the New Testament writers), having studied it for many years prior to my ordination to the priesthood and before I earned my Ph.D. I've taught high school and university courses in Greek, and I regularly read Scripture in Greek. But none of that qualifies me as anything close to being an expert in Greek. So rather than trust my own judgment, I checked it out with the experts.

I printed out transcripts of the online heos hou arguments made by these Protestant apologists and showed them to several Greek scholars. They laughed, treating them with scornful derision. They confirmed what I already knew: that heos hou is just shorthand for heos hou chronou en hoi (literally: until the time when), and that both heos and heos hou have the same range of meaning. But do they? Professional scholars can sometimes be dismissive because they've been scooped by unpedigreed amateurs. Could that be the case here? What does a hard look at the evidence reveal?

For one thing, it reveals that not every occurrence of heos hou in the New Testament plainly indicates reversal of the condition being described in the main clause.

Consider Acts 25:21: "But when Paul demanded to be kept in custody until [eis] the Emperor's verdict, I gave orders that he should be kept in custody until [heos hou] I could send him on to Caesar" (Anchor Bible translation, slightly amended; my bracketing).

Now when St. Paul was to be sent on, he was surely going to remain in custody; for his original request was to be kept in custody until the Emperor's verdict. Hence the use of heos hou in this verse does not imply that Paul ceased to be kept in custody after he had been remanded to Caesar. It implies the very opposite.

Another example of heos hou being used without any sense of a change in condition after the "until" happens is 2 Peter 1:19:

"Moreover, we possess the prophetic message that is altogether reliable. You will do well to be attentive to it, as a lamp shining in a dark place, until (heos hou) the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts." Clearly, St. Peter was not insinuating that we should cease being attentive to the truths he was presenting after "the day dawns and the morning star rises in [our] hearts." Here, as in Matthew 1:25, heos hou does not imply a change.

Think of a comparable case. Luigi, a mob informant in Chicago, tells agent Smith that he wants to be held in protective custody till he can meet with the head of the FBI in DC. Agent Smith phones his superiors and says: "I've put Luigi in protective custody until I can arrange for transportation to DC." Will Luigi cease to remain in protective custody once he leaves for DC? Of course not. The force of agent Smith's "until" obviously concerns the time before Luigi's leaving. He might have said to his superiors: "Luigi is in protective custody now and will remain in protective custody during the whole time before I'm able to arrange for his transportation to DC." But we express this in normal English by the word "until." If agent Smith had been speaking koine Greek, it seems clear he'd have said heos hou.

But suppose all this is wrong. Suppose that, apart from Matthew 1:25, every occurrence of heos hou in the New Testament clearly indicates a reversal of the main clause. That would still not prove that reversal is implied by Matthew 1:25. It would merely prove that Matthew 1:25 may be the only place in the New Testament where reversal is not implied. If this is supposed to be a linguistic argument, we need to ask ourselves: Did heos hou really have a range of meaning significantly different from heos all by itself? Is there evidence that between (say) 300 B.C. and 300 A.D., Greek speakers recognized that heos hou, unlike heos by itself, always implied reversal or cessation of what is expressed in the main clause?

The answer is no.

One Greek text well known to the authors of the New Testament was the Septuagint, the Greek translation of the Old Testament. It was in place roughly two hundred years before Christ. And there, lo and behold, we find that heos hou does not always indicate reversal or cessation. In Psalm 111 (112):8 we read: "His heart is steadfast, he shall not be afraid until [heos hou] he looks down upon his foes." Obviously the man who delights in the Lord's commands is going to continue to have a steadfast heart and to be unafraid even after he looks down upon his foes.

Skip ahead now to the third century A.D. Clement of Alexandria wrote: "Thus thirty years were completed until [heos hou] He [Jesus] suffered" (Stromateis, 1.21; Patrologia Graeca, 8.885a). There is no reversal of the main clause here; once again, heos hou is equivalent to "before." So two hundred years before the New Testament and two hundred years after the New Testament, heos hou could be used, like heos all by itself, to mean extent of time up to a point - but with no negation of the idea expressed in the main clause.

Do our Cyberspace Savants really expect anyone to believe that for a brief period in the middle of this consistent usage, heos hou suddenly had to indicate reversal of the main clause? Or maybe they think that the New Testament was written in a special kind of Greek - one raised uniquely above the mundane flow of usage that preceded and followed it. Or maybe they're blowing smoke concerning a language they really don't know very much about. Or maybe these Protestant apologists do know a good deal about Greek, but they are either ignorant of this particular issue (and are trumpeting their ignorance over the Internet), or they do know their argument has no merit on linguistic grounds and are sneakily persisting in using it.

But regardless of how well or poorly these men know Greek, St. John Chrysostom, one of the greatest early Church Fathers, surely knew the Greek language immensely well (he wrote and spoke it fluently) and was sensitive to its every nuance. Let's look at what he had to say on the subject of Mary's perpetual virginity and the meaning of heos hou.

In his sermons on St. Matthew's Gospel (cf. Patrologia Graeca, 7.58), St. John Chrysostom quotes Matthew 1:25 and then asks, "But why . . . did [St. Matthew] use the word 'until'?" Note well here: In quoting the verse, Chrysostom had used heos hou; but in asking the question, the word he uses for "until" is heos all by itself - as if he were unaware of a difference in meaning between these two expressions.

He answers his question by saying that it is usual and frequent for Scripture to use the word "until" (heos) without reference to limited times. Then he gives three examples. The first is his own paraphrase of Genesis 8:7: "The raven did not return until the earth was dried up." Here Chrysostom uses heos hou for "until." (But the actual text of the Septuagint has heos alone.) The second example is from Psalm 90:2: "From everlasting to everlasting you are." The verse quoted (correctly) by Chrysostom has heos all by itself. The third example is from Psalm 72:7: "In his days justice shall flourish and fullness of peace until the moon be taken away." And here the word for "until," as in the Septuagint text, is heos hou.

If Joseph was a just man and a faithful Jew, if he believed that the God he worshipped, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God who was present in the Holy of Holies, was present also in Mary's womb as Father of her Child is it really likely that he would have had relations with his wife once the Child had been born?
It's clear that for St. John Chrysostom, heos has exactly the same meaning as heos hou. That's why he framed his question about "until" in terms of heos alone, even though the verse giving rise to the question, which he'd just finished quoting, had heos hou instead. That's why it was natural for him to use heos hou in his paraphrase of Genesis 8:7. And that is why, in his list of analogues to Matthew 1:25, he used both heos and heos hou without the slightest hesitation - his linguistically sensitive ear registered no difference in meaning between them. (But there is a syntactical difference: heos hou came normally to be used as a conjunction; heos by itself as a preposition.)

If an unbridgeable linguistic chasm separated these two expressions, how could it be that the greatest master of the Greek language in all Christendom was unaware of it? The plain answer is that there was no such chasm. The whole "heos hou vs. heos" argument is a bunch of hooey. And both Sophocles in his Greek Lexicon of the Roman and Byzantine Periods and Stephanus in his Thesaurus Graecae Linguae agree; they state explicitly that heos and heos hou are equivalent in meaning.

And finally, we have the testimony of the Septuagint, the Greek version of the Old Testament that the Apostles and the early Church Fathers almost always quoted from in their writings.

So in this corner, ladies and gentlemen, we have Sophocles, Stephanus, the Septuagint, St. John Chrysostom, and modern Greek scholars; in that corner, we have the "Pentium Pamphleteers," swashbuckling Internet polemicists who are pretty clumsy in their wielding of this particular "argument" from the Greek. If you were inclined to wager money, I'd ask you: Where would you place your bets?

But beyond all this, it's the surrounding context, not words considered simply in themselves, that will usually tip the balance of interpretation. If we hear someone say: "I'm not going to eat anything until Thursday," we figure that come Thursday he's going to eat something - because people normally eat. Likewise when we read that a married couple did not have intercourse until a certain time, we figure that they did have intercourse after that time - because this is one of the ways married people normally express their love. And no doubt most (though not all) Protestants read Matthew 1:25 as they do, not out of any pedantic pseudo-scholarship or desire to derogate Mary or compulsive hatred for the Catholic Church.

Rather, they simply desire to see Mary and Joseph as a normal, loving couple. And to all such people of good will, I would close with the following question I'd ask them to ponder before they deny Mary's perpetual virginity: If Joseph was a just man and a faithful Jew, if he believed that the God he worshipped, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God who was present in the Holy of Holies, was present also in Mary's womb as Father of her Child - is it really likely that he would have had relations with his wife once the Child had been born?

And if that question does not give you pause, be assured of my prayers until (heos hou) it does (and afterwards as well).

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Comment #141 Removed by Moderator

To: sandyeggo
Someone has been whispering evil into your ear, I'm sorry to say. You can't be a Christian if you don't think Christ is God made man.

Ya think? Gosh my fate must be the same as those Binatarians that didn't know Yeshua was God until Constantine approved the MINORITY opinion at the counsel of Nicea in 325ad.

142 posted on 06/24/2003 7:30:52 AM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: sandyeggo
Not when I was doing it myself.

God said "Let Us". God is God, the others are "us".

143 posted on 06/24/2003 7:32:06 AM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
Dear Hermann,

"Luke 1.34 And Mary said to the angel: How shall this be done, because I know not man?"

In my own mind, this is the most persuasive evidence, either way, relating on Mary's perpetual virginity.

Ordinarily, a woman about to be married would not wonder how she would conceive.

Being engaged to be married, to be told that she would be expecting a child, who would be the Messiah, if her expectation were the usual sort of marriage, one can imagine her asking:

"Why is God making me the mother of the Messiah?"

or:

"What will be the effects of this on my life?"

But the question, "How shall this be done, because I know not man?"

doesn't make sense.

Gabriel doesn't say, "You have conceived."

Gabriel says: "You WILL conceive."

If Mary is expecting a usual sort of marriage, then she would know how she would conceive in the near-term - through relations with her new husband.

If she were expecting to have relations with her new husband, one can imagine the answer to, "You WILL conceive," being, "I know that," or "I certainly hope so, I don't want to wind up like my cousin Elizabeth."

But, "How shall that be done?"

That's a question which would run contrary to her expectation, if she had not taken a vow of perpetual virginity.

The question she asks makes no sense if she expected to have relations with Joseph.

If one makes the assumption that these two would marry in the usual way, and have relations, then this verse becomes nonsensical, and sticks out as inexplicable.

Certainly, that the doctrine is confirmed by the unanimous teaching of the early Church, and that the weight of Scripture favors it, one would think that "Bible Christians" would accept it, as they often accept other doctrines not explicitly or completely explicated in Scripture, like the doctrine of the Trinity.


sitetest
144 posted on 06/24/2003 7:34:43 AM PDT by sitetest
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To: sitetest
as they often accept other doctrines not explicitly or completely explicated in Scripture, like the doctrine of the Trinity.

We do?

145 posted on 06/24/2003 7:36:16 AM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: sandyeggo
Your interpretation of "us" as angels, and including them as creators of man is brand new. Are you a cult of one?

Nobody included them as creators. Remember? That your hyperliteralist interpretation. The minority ruled at Nicea and now we have truth based on the majority. Go figure.

But since this is off the thread topic, I'll leave it at that.

Ok.

147 posted on 06/24/2003 7:40:43 AM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
You certainly didn't read it, because it has little to do with Helvidius and Jerome.
148 posted on 06/24/2003 7:44:30 AM PDT by RobbyS
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Dear Invincibly Ignorant,

Your failure to accept the Divinity of Jesus Christ, and your denial of Trinitarian doctrine places you outside the circle of what the overwhelming number of followers of Jesus in the world would consider "Christian".

I agree with them.

You're free to believe your false opinions (though you aren't entitled to them). You appear, as your screen name suggests, impervious to the truth of the matter. There is little to say to you that hasn't been said by others, a lot more clearly than I could say it.

So, you may conclude that when I refer to non-Catholic Christians, I'm not addressing you.



sitetest
149 posted on 06/24/2003 7:48:06 AM PDT by sitetest
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To: RobbyS
You certainly didn't read it, because it has little to do with Helvidius and Jerome.

I did too read it.

150 posted on 06/24/2003 7:48:12 AM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: sitetest
If she were expecting to have relations with her new husband, one can imagine the answer to, "You WILL conceive," being, "I know that," or "I certainly hope so, I don't want to wind up like my cousin Elizabeth."

But, "How shall that be done?"

Hey, you stole my argument! :-)

This is indeed a "sore thumb" verse, and my many attempts to have NCs contemplate it have gone unfulfilled. The simple fact is that a woman entering a marriage who is told she will conceive a child would not answer "how can this happen?" unless she had no plan of having intercourse.

SD

151 posted on 06/24/2003 7:48:52 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Aquinasfan
Although I don't think faith in a "Triune" God is necessary for the salvation of the invincibly ignorant. Faith in "God" will suffice, since knowledge of the existence of the Trinity requires divine revelation.

Against this view you posit, which I think is the minority view, I point to the Athanasian Creed, The Summa II-II Q 2 Art 8, John 3.36, 6.40, 17.3, Acts 4.12, Catechism of the Catholic Church 161, the common teaching of the Church's Doctors, such as St. Alphonsus de Liguori, St. Augustine, etc. and her theologians, such as Ludwig Ott, the two responses of the Holy Office in 1703 to the Bishop of Quebec stating that faith in the Trinity is necessary by a necessity of means for salvation, and the reconfirmation of this in 1898, and some condemnations of moral errors in 1679. Regarding those responses of the Holy Office, I reproduce them below:

"QUESTION: Whether a minister is bound, before baptism is conferred on an adult, to explain to him all the mysteries of our faith, especially if he is at the point of death, because this might disturb his mind. Or, whether it is sufficient, if the one at the point of death will promise that when he recovers from the illness, he will take care to be instructed, so that he may put into practice what has been commanded him. RESPONSE: A promise is not sufficient, but a missionary is bound to explain to an adult, even a dying one who is not entirely incapacitated, the mysteries of faith which are necessary by a necessity of means, as are especially the mysteries of the Trinity and the Incarnation." (Response of the Holy Office to the Bishop of Quebec, Jan. 25, 1703, Dz. 1349a)

"QUESTION: Whether it is possible for a crude and uneducated adult, as it might be with a barbarian, to be baptized, if these were given to him only an understanding of God, and some of His attributes, especially His justice in rewarding and in punishing, according to the remark of the Apostle: "He that comes to God must believe that he is and that he is a rewarder", from which it is inferred that a barbarian adult, in a certain case of urgent necessity, can be baptized although he does not believe explicitly in Jesus Christ. RESPONSE: A missionary should not baptize one who does not believe explicitly in the Lord Jesus Christ, but is bound to instruct him about all those matters which are necessary, by a necessity of means, in accordance with the capacity of the one to be baptized." (Response of the Holy Office to the Bishop of Quebec, May 10, 1703, Dz. 1349b)

64. A person is fit for absolution, however much he labors under an ignorance of the mysteries of the faith, and even if through negligence, even culpable, he does not know the mystery of the most blessed Trinity, and of the incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ. (Various Errors on Moral Subjects, condemned by the Holy Office on March 4, 1679)

So while there is nothing formally defined here, I think it would be quite rash to go against the near universal weight of the opinion on the side of belief in the Trinity being a necessity of means for salvation. This also reinforces the need for divine revelation to have faith, since man might know God by reason, but not the Trinity.

Lastly, it seems difficult to understand the Incarnation correctly without knowing the Trinity. The two doctrines are inextricably linked, and it is very clear from Scripture that salvation is impossible apart from faith in the Person of Christ and His Mission.

152 posted on 06/24/2003 7:50:59 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: sitetest
So, you may conclude that when I refer to non-Catholic Christians, I'm not addressing you.

I'll reach my conclusions based on what I believe the people who were first called "Christains"in Antioch were like. So far as I can tell, none of them knew they were Trinitarians.

153 posted on 06/24/2003 7:52:28 AM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
The main thrust of the article is that Protestant critics of the perpetual virginity of Mary have interpreted the Greek to mean what it does not necessarily mean.
154 posted on 06/24/2003 7:58:26 AM PDT by RobbyS
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To: RobbyS
what it does not necessarily mean.

Wake me up when you can take the word "necessarily" out of the above.

155 posted on 06/24/2003 8:00:37 AM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
God told married people to "be fruitful and multiply", i.e. have sex to have children. Mary was given a child without sex, which should be clue number one about what God wanted from her. After all, God could have incarnated Himself in a child conceived in the normal way, since int he Incarnation, it consisted of Him uniting Himself to a human body produced from a fertilized human egg; but most importantly, He didn't. Why did God need to be born from a Virgin at all? It was to produce a sign of the miraculousness of the Person so conceived (Isaiah 7.14). It would hardly be much of a sign of Blessed Mary and St. Joseph had sexual relations and other children. The common perception would be that Jesus was conceived in the normal way, and was nothing particularly special, His claims to the contrary notwithstanding. This is, in fact, the argument of His Jewish enemies. You do manage to find yourself in good company, don't you?

God also told married people to abstain from sex at times for prayer. If God Almighty was living under your roof and being craddled in your arms and nursed from your breasts, would you not be praying at all times to Him, especially if he had made you "full of grace"?

Its difficult to imagine why St. Joseph and Blessed Mary would feel any need for sexual intercourse, since they were perfectly united with each other through their perfect union with their Divine Son. This is in fact the essence of every Christian Marriage, and they had it most perfectly.

156 posted on 06/24/2003 8:02:47 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: SoothingDave
Dear SD,

"Hey, you stole my argument! :-)"

Sorry, do you want me to give it back??

;-)


sitetest
157 posted on 06/24/2003 8:03:02 AM PDT by sitetest
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Matthew 28:19 (RSV)

Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit

The simple words from the Master Himself demonstrate the existence of the Trinity.

158 posted on 06/24/2003 8:04:07 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (+ Vive Jesus! (Live Jesus!) +)
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To: Ex-Wretch
"As to Joseph not being allowed to "desecrate" Mary, this is akin to believing in evolution vs. the creation. It takes waaaay more faith to believe. If God the Father would allow His very own Son to be "desecrated" by becoming carnal flesh and further, to suffer profanities, spittings, beatings, being nailed to a cross to die and hanging half-naked for all to see .... well, I don't think He would be too upset to see Mary and Joseph have a loving, conjugal relationship during the course of their marriage (post Jesus' birth)."

It is not the flesh of itself, but what we humans choose to do to it that makes it sinful. Christ was not desecrated by becoming flesh, but was desecrated by the soldiers that put him up there. Also, the analogy above would lead one to equate Joseph to the Roman soldiers... and here I thought he was a pious man.
159 posted on 06/24/2003 8:04:56 AM PDT by Seraphicaviary
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To: Ex-Wretch
"As to Joseph not being allowed to "desecrate" Mary, this is akin to believing in evolution vs. the creation. It takes waaaay more faith to believe. If God the Father would allow His very own Son to be "desecrated" by becoming carnal flesh and further, to suffer profanities, spittings, beatings, being nailed to a cross to die and hanging half-naked for all to see .... well, I don't think He would be too upset to see Mary and Joseph have a loving, conjugal relationship during the course of their marriage (post Jesus' birth)."

It is not the flesh of itself, but what we humans choose to do to it that makes it sinful. Christ was not desecrated by becoming flesh, but was desecrated by the soldiers that put him up there. Also, the analogy above would lead one to equate Joseph to the Roman soldiers... and here I thought he was a pious man.
160 posted on 06/24/2003 8:04:56 AM PDT by Seraphicaviary
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