Return of the Niphilim.

Koinonia House ^ | NA | Chuck Missler

[milan]

In the last article, "Mischievous Angels or Sethites?" we explored the importance of understanding Genesis 6. The straightforward presentation of the text seems to clearly portray a strange union of fallen angels with women to produce a hybrid race called the "Nephilim," or fallen ones.

We enumerated the reasons we accept the "angel" view and why the liberal "Sethite" view is inadequate.

[milan]

Really would like to get some feedabck on this. What does everyone think of this?

[milan]

Angels are spirit beings without the capacity to procreate.

Is this Biblical? I would love to see the scripture that states this? I have been trying to verify some of Misslers claims or find conflicting information. Any help would be appreciated.

[restornu]

Have sone fun!!

GENESIS 6:1 Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them,

2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose.

3 And the LORD said, "My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years."

4 There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. (NKJV)

There has been much speculation about who these "sons of God" mentioned in the sixth chapter of Genesis were. Three basic interpretations of this passage have been advanced.

The first, and oldest, belief is that "the sons of God" were fallen angels who consorted with human women, producing giant offspring called nephilim (Heb. ðôìéí).

This view was widely held in the world of the first century, and was supported by Flavius Josephus, Philo, Eusebius and many of the "Ante-Nicene Fathers," including Justin Martyr, Clement of Alexandria, Origen, Tertullian, Irenaeus, Athenagoras and Commodianus.

GENESIS 6 - WHO WERE "THE SONS OF GOD"?

[milan]

BE NOT FORGETFUL TO ENTERTAIN STRANGERS,FOR THEREBY SOME HAVE ENTERTAINED ANGELS UNAWARES. HEBREWS 13:2

Angels are better than man...more advanced mind you. How could you entertain a spirit and not know it? That doesn't make sense.

I appreciate your arguement however. I had really wanted to look into what this Missler had written.

[Pyro7480]

Angels are better than man...more advanced mind you.

In some ways, angels are better. However, they cannot procreate, which is ultimately humanity taking a role of co-creator. There are others reasons where man has an "advantage."

[restornu]

I think that much knowledge has been keped in a hands of a few for every once in a while in a book or an event, a moveis some thing rings familar!

Like "Start Wars" how did Spillberg just happen to come into pocession of things if one were to ponder it make one wonder there is some unresloved issue!

There are mythologies that now seem to have some glimpsy of realness.

Some day all of this knowledge will come into play agian and those who have had pocession of it will no longer control certain events!

[epow]

In Matt. 22 Jesus answers the Sadducees' question concerning marriage in heaven by saying that the saints who are there are like the angels who neither marry nor are given in marriage. Some people I have heard speak on the subject take that to mean that angels are gender neutral. Personally, I think they may be reading too much into the passage since throughout scripture angels are referred to as male.

But I think that the passage would be an excellent refutation of any argument for angelic procreation, although I don't believe I have ever heard anyone make that argument.

[milan]

In Matt. 22 Jesus answers the Sadducees' question concerning marriage in heaven by saying that the saints who are there are like the angels who neither marry nor are given in marriage

Two points: Just becuase they don't marry does not mean they are incapable of sexual relations. No, I am not saying they are a bunch of adulterous angels! Just making a point. And God made man in His image...we multiply. That doesn't mean God multiples but He most certainly does create. How do we know that the Angels cannot multiply?

Plase don't think I am trying to start a heresy here. When I read the things that Missler wrote, I was just amazed. And it would explain many things such a Greek myth, the size of Goliath, and the Giants that the Israelis encountered on their way to the promised land.

[milan]

However, they cannot procreate

Where in God's Word does it say they cannot procreate?

[milan]

Angels could and did assume human form and even eat men's food (Gen. 18-19).

[restornu]

What's behind the UFO's?

Are they real?

Where are they from?

Are they the Nephilim of ages past?

What does the Bible say about them?

What's their agenda for Planet Earth?

This subject has not gone away. On the contrary, much new evidence has surfaced with global implications. Chuck explores the Biblical relevance and disturbing agenda of the apparent extraterrestrial life forms that have been forcing themselves into our global consciousness and reveals their most disturbing agenda.


"For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." (Matthew 24:24)


How do you protect yourself?

[restornu]

[milan]

Thanks! Good read.

[sharktrager]

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'And Also After That':
The Return of the Nephilim?
by Chuck Missler

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In the last article, "Mischievous Angels or Sethites?" we explored the importance of understanding Genesis 6. The straightforward presentation of the text seems to clearly portray a strange union of fallen angels with women to produce a hybrid race called the "Nephilim," or fallen ones.

We enumerated the reasons we accept the "angel" view and why the liberal "Sethite" view is inadequate.

Far beyond simply a misunderstanding of the forthright presentation of the text, the "Sethite" view also obscures apprehension of the prophetic Scriptures.

Post-Flood Occurrences

Regarding the Nephilim, Genesis 6:4 also includes the haunting phrase, "...and also after that...." Apparently these strange events were not confined just to the period before the Flood.

We find that there seems to be some recurrence of those things which resulted in unusual "giants" appearing in subsequent periods later in the Old Testament narrative, specifically the giant-races of Canaan.

There were a number of tribes such as the Rephaim, the Emim, the Horim, and Zamsummim, that were giants.1 The kingdom of Og, the King of Bashan, was the "land of the giants."2 Later, we also find Arba,3 Anak, and his seven sons (the "Anakim") also as giants, along with the famed Goliath4 and his four brothers.5

When God had revealed to Abraham that the land of Canaan was to be given to him, Satan had over 400 years to plant his "mine field" of Nephilim!6

When Moses sent his twelve spies to reconnoiter the Land of Canaan, they came back with the report of giants in the land.7 (The term used was Nephilim.) Their fear of those terrifying creatures resulted in their being relegated to wandering in the wilderness for 38 years.

When Joshua and the nation Israel later entered the land of Canaan, they were instructed to wipe out every man, woman and child of certain tribes.8 That strikes us as disturbingly severe. It would seem that in the Land of Canaan, there again was a "gene pool problem."

These Rephaim, Nephilim, and others seem to have been established as an advance guard to obstruct Israel's possession of the Promised Land. Was this also a stratagem of Satan?

The Days of Noah

Perhaps the most direct prophetic reference involving these things was the peculiar warning of our Lord Jesus Himself:

And as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

Luke 17:26

What does that mean? He also warned:

And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

Luke 21:25,26 (emphasis added)

(The late Walter Martin loved to include a "flying saucer" gesture with his hand when quoting this verse!)

Is it possible that the UFOs - and their occupants - are part of an end-time scenario?

The Miry Clay of Daniel 2

The famous dream of Nebuchadnezzar in Daniel Chapter 2 appears to lay out all of Gentile history until God ultimately intervenes and sets up His own kingdom.

The various metals which make up the image in the dream are well known to serious students of prophecy.9> Even our common expression, "the idol has feet of clay," comes to us from this classic passage.

But what is represented by the "miry clay" in this image? It seems to be strangely mixed-but not completely-with the iron in the dream. The term "miry clay" refers to clay made from dust,10 a Biblical idiom which suggests death.11 )

When Daniel interprets this for us he makes an especially provocative allusion in verse 43:

And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

Daniel 2:43

As he switches to a personal pronoun, they, "shall mingle themselves with the seed of men..." This is extremely suggestive when viewed in light of the warning of our Lord in Luke 17:26, ostensibly directing us to look more closely at Genesis 6.

Just what (or who) are "mingling with the seed of men?" These would seem to refer to some beings who are not the seed of men themselves!

Could this be a hint of a return to the mischief of Genesis 6? It staggers the mind to consider the potential significance of Daniel's passage and its implications for the future global governance.

Are these "aliens" so prolific that they constitute a political constituency?

Will there be UFO incidents as part of a carefully orchestrated program to lead us toward a political agenda? Or has it started already? Are the UFOs, and the increasingly widespread abductions, part of the preparations for this scenario?

UFO Abductions?

There seems to be a growing concern within the psychiatric community from the strange (and far too frequent) reports from people who claim to have been "abducted" by the occupants of UFOs. These reports are too bizarre to accept, and yet too frequent-and consistent-to ignore. What is particularly disturbing is the estimate from some national polls that as much as 3% of the population may be involved!

Perhaps the most well-known researcher in this area is Dr. John E. Mack, who is professor of psychiatry at The Cambridge Hospital, Harvard Medical School. A contributor to over 150 articles in professional (peer-reviewed) journals and a former Pulitzer Prize winner, he certainly appears to have impressive credentials.

He has been involved in almost a hundred of these cases personally, and has shocked the professional community by declaring that he believes these beings may be real and that they appear to have an agenda to develop a hybrid race!12

At a professional conference on abductions at M.I.T., Dr. Mack asked the provocative question, "If what these abductees are saying is happening to them isn't happening, then what is?"13

Could all this involve a return to the strange events of "the Days of Noah?"

Can A Christian Be "Abducted?"

In our publication, The Return of the Nephilim, I ventured the opinion, based on demonology considerations, that a Christian cannot be abducted. In response, I have received several letters of rebuttal, and also an interesting phone call from a senior executive at Universal Studios who apparently has extensive background in this area.

He indicated that he had participated with Dr. John Mack in some of his sessions, as well as with other researchers, and declared that I was wrong. He suggested that I investigate the Andreasson affair.

The Andreasson case involved a spirit-filled Christian; however, the reports indicate that she accepted an invitation to participate.14 It still appears to me that a Christian cannot be abducted unwillingly.

This opens up the entire subject of demonology and is beyond our scope here. (Our book does include a "Checklist for Potential Abductees" for those who are concerned with this issue.)

[jatfla]

Most evangelical teachers teach this interpretation. These are the "fallen" angels intent on corrupting the human race to prevent the "Perfect" God-Man, Jesus Christ from entering humanity. They use 2 Peter 2:4-5 and Jude 6 and 7 as the explanation of God's punishment for their sin. This is what I've been taught.

[milan]

Honestly, I had never heard this before, but with the scripture backing it up I am believeing this interpretation. I have seen the arguements against and they are vague at best. There is far more scripture supporting this view.

[P-Marlowe]

Most evangelical teachers teach this interpretation.