[ninenot]

Ratzinger has been quite firm on this: the translation "all" is a matter of dogmatic truth. Whoever says that Christ's Sacrifice was NOT sufficient for the redemption of "all"--is anathema.

That is, they are heretics.

[Aloysius]

Ratzinger has been quite firm on this: the translation "all" is a matter of dogmatic truth

Are saying Jesus was wrong in his choice of words and that we need Ratzinger to clarify?

[ultima ratio]

"Whoever says that Christ's Sacrifice was NOT sufficient for the redemption of 'all'--is anathema."

As usual you miss the point. Traditionalists are not arguing that Christ's sacrifice was not sufficient for all. They are arguing that it is a violation of the truth to pretend--for politically correct reasons--that he said what he didn't say on the night before his death. He did not say "all", he said "many". By changing what he said on the night before he died, the New Mass has falsified the truth. So we ask: since when is a lie permitted in a Catholic liturgy? The usual modernist response--that it is a little white lie that should go unnoticed--is not good enough.

[ultima ratio]

"Whoever says that Christ's Sacrifice was NOT sufficient for the redemption of 'all'--is anathema."

One further point: anyone with an ounce of logic can see through the argument presented in defense of the new canon. But it is a straw man. Traditionalists don't quarrel with the idea that Christ's sacrifice was sufficient for all. Of course it was. But we quarrel with the idea that He did not understand that all would NOT be saved despite His sacrifice. In fact, He clearly understood that some would not achieve salvation, despite His sacrifice. This is why he said "many" and this is why we insist that the liturgy remain true to His words and not false to them.

[Salvation]

**the translation "all" is a matter of dogmatic truth. Whoever says that Christ's Sacrifice was NOT sufficient for the redemption of "all"--is anathema.

That is, they are heretics.**

BTTT in agreement with your statement. Jesus died on the Cross for us all.