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To: drstevej
ACTS 17:11 Now the Catholics were of more noble character than the Protestants, for they received the message with great skepticism and asked the Church every day if what Paul said was true to Tradition?. ?YOPIOT

Thanks for dropping in, Steve.

Two Questions:

1. Do you disagree with any of the doctrines stated in this unit of the catechism - I BELIEVE IN GOD THE FATHER.

2. Read these passages: 2 Tim 2:2 “What you have heard from me before many witnesses entrust to faithful men who will be able to teach others also.”
2 Thes 2:15 “Stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter,” and
1 Cor 11:2 “Maintain the traditions even as I have delivered them to you.”

They certainly look to me as if they support the idea of a sacred tradition apart from Scripture. If the Bible is literally true, how do you understand this apart from the idea of a sacred tradition.

An Observation:
During the first 1,500 years of Christendom there were no printing presses. Bibles were hand copied by monks. Each monastery had a large room called a scriptorium. Each monk would sit at a desk hand copying a page of Sacred Scripture. It took one monk three years to produce a single Bible. The monasteries produced Bibles so that priests could read them to their mostly illiterate congregations. For 1,500 years virtually all Scripture reading and teaching was done by Catholic priests. It is inconceivable that Jesus, who promised that, Mt 16:18 “... the powers of death shall not prevail against it,” and, Mt 28:20 “I am with you always,” allowed fifteen centuries, 60 generations, of His followers to pass into eternity without true teaching.

13 posted on 05/24/2003 1:49:53 PM PDT by NYer (Laudate Dominum)
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To: NYer
Actually I only scanned the catechism post. Looks fine from a casual reading. I would not expect disagreement on this topic.

***For 1,500 years virtually all Scripture reading and teaching was done by Catholic priests.***

Here I disagree. You assume the Catholic Church (RCC) begins with Peter, I do not. In any case, the Bereans were not Catholic priests and they searched the Scriptures (OT in this case) to evaluate the truth or falsity of Paul's teachings. This was called noble. This is frowned upon by the RCC.

The Protestants placed the Bible back into the hands of the people -- a very good thing. Alows them to be noble Bereans. Thank God for the printing press.
14 posted on 05/24/2003 2:03:35 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: NYer
**2. Read these passages: 2 Tim 2:2 “What you have heard from me before many witnesses entrust to faithful men who will be able to teach others also.”
2 Thes 2:15 “Stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter,” and
1 Cor 11:2 “Maintain the traditions even as I have delivered them to you.”**

Holy Tradition bump as verified in Holy Scripture!
16 posted on 05/24/2003 2:54:13 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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