To: PFKEY
You tell me.
And then tell me whether or not the spiritual gifts came to an end, and if so, then tell me when they came to an end and which ones came to an end and why they came to an end.
Make your best argument from scripture.
31 posted on
05/21/2003 11:27:34 PM PDT by
P-Marlowe
(Psalm 150 to the Max! Crank up the volume and Praise the Lord!)
To: P-Marlowe
First let us turn to 1 Corinthians 13: "Love never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall be done away; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall be done away. For we know in part, and we prophecy in part; but when that which is perfect is come, that which in part shall be done away. When I was a child, I spake as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a child: now that I am become a man, I have put away childish things. For now we see in a mirror, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I be known fully even as also I was fully known. But know abideth faith, hope, love, these three; and the greatest of these is love" (vs. 8-13). In this passage Paul was definitely talking about the time when prophecies would be done away-spiritual gifts would cease. He mentions the time when prophecies would be done away, tongues would cease, and knowledge would be done away. It should be apparent to all that Paul was speaking of miraculous .powers, and the time when they would be no more. Prophecies, tongues and knowledge were miraculous gifts. It is absurd for a person to declare that if one teaches that miraculous gifts were done away there is no knowledge left in the earth. Note the specific knowledge that Paul had in mind: "For to one is given through the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge, according to the same Spirit" (1 Cor. 12:8). In this passage Paul was enumerating the spiritual gifts. One of them was the gift of knowledge. While I certainly believe that natural knowledge is yet in the world, I do not believe that any man today has supernatural power. The apostles were told to take no thought what they, should say, for it would be given to them of their Father who is in heaven (Matt. 10:19). If these men who claim to have miraculous gifts of divine knowledge have such power, I could ask them to quote any passage in the Bible and even though they may never have memorized it, by divine power they could recite it. Find such a person. We would like for him to be tested.
Furthermore, one says if you say that that "which is perfect" had not come in New Testament times, you are declaring that the church was then imperfect. Paul was speaking of the fact that the New Testament Scriptures had not all been given, and that when they were perfected, or completed, for that is the meaning of the word "perfect", then that which was in part, namely spiritual gifts or divine knowledge, prophecies, and tongues, were to be done away. Notice also that it is not I who says that that which is perfect had not come, but the apostle Paul: "...but when that which is perfect is come, that which is in part shall be done away."
Sorry to quote from articles but it saves time and typing.
You tell me.
And then tell me whether or not the spiritual gifts came to an end, and if not, then tell me when they will end and which ones will end and why they will end.
Make your best argument from scripture.
32 posted on
05/21/2003 11:35:28 PM PDT by
PFKEY
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