Where Have All the FR Protestants Gone? [A Month Later]

drstevej

[drstevej]

Thread from last month...

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Where Have All the FR Protestants Gone?
drstevej

Posted on 04/08/2003 12:29 PM CDT by drstevej

OBSERVATIONS:

[1] There seems to be a significantly reduced number of Protestant Threads (KJV Only being the exception for sure) in the FR Religion Forum.

[2] There seems to be a reduced number of FR Protestant posts in the Religion Forum.

This thread is a place to discuss these observations.

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Now the transformation to a Catholic Religion Forum is almost complete. Must be a Marian miracle or an answer to Jim Robinson's prayer, "Can't we all just get along?" Now all the dissent is within the RC fold ... NO Mass vs. Tridentine Mass. Boredom has descended, the moderators are free to nap without fear of an **** awakening them.

Could someone arrange for a funeral mass? (a clown mass in this case might be in order).

 

-- Pope Piel  I (thinking of abdicating prior to even assuming the Chair of Peter)

[Aloysius]

The Saturday Vigil is called "The Fisherman's Mass." Do the math

Must be an awful lot of fishermen in the U.S. As a matter of fact, I now realize there are many fishermen and fisherwomen in my family. Too bad they all eat meat on Fridays.

[sinkspur]

The Church can change all manner of Holy Days and related obligations except the Sabbath obligation.

And the Church says that the Sabbath begins at sundown on the evening before, as the Jewish Sabbath does.

As St. Chuck has pointed out, look at the Vespers hour in the Divine Office. It begins celebrating the Sabbath on Saturday evening.

What's next? Is a mass invalid if a priest wears the stole on the outside of the chasuble versus under the chasuble?

You're straining at a gnat, scraping to find another reason to trash the post-Vatican II Church.

[drstevej]

Pope Piel I, the Pocket Fisher of Men... will have on the water Sunday celebrations (however, you must have a commercial fishing liscence to attend. no recreational anglers allowed. Pope Piel don't cater to slackers.).

[Aloysius]

The FSSP, which is widely admired around here, also celebrates the Tridentine Mass on Saturday evenings.

Where is that Saturday anticipated Mass offered by the FSSP - Compromise City?

[jt8d]

Tell me about it, Mister! I did a dissertation last summer on the homosexual priest fiasco, and by the time the document was finished, the piece was 17 pages in length, and no subject was left uncovered: from the media's disingenuine coverage and liberal hipocrasy, on through to the notorius "Liberty, Equality, and Fraternity!" heresy that has plagued mankind since Lucifer rebelled against God.

The whole affair--Lucifer's Rebellion in Heaven; Man's Banishment from Eden; The Flood; The Fall of Babylon; The Renniasance; The Reformation; King Henry VIII and The Anglican Church; Puritan colonization; The American War of Independence; The French Revolution; The Revolution of 1917; Vatican II--all of them are centered upon one concept: Rebellion against God's Reign.

The "Revolution" never ends, it only assumes new forms under various identities--democracy is one of its more insidious faces.

Read the Preamble to the Magna Charta of 1215, then follow the natural progression that follows throughout the history of Man's "famous" documents, where God slowly gets booted out of the picture in favor of The Cult of Man: The Mayflower Compact, The American Declaration of Independence, The United States Constitution, The French Declaration on the Rights of Man, The United Nations' Declaration of Human Rights, and The Humanist Manifesto I and II.

The problem with "Democracy"--representative or otherwise--is that it inevitably evolves to make Man sovereign over God; to wit: Man becomes the center of all things, God is "rationalized" to an ever-declining role in human affairs--until, ultimately, God is banished altogether from the human sphere. This is what the Novus Ordo boils down to: Man increasingly becomes the focal point of the Mass--Jesus Christ is cast-off to the side. Thereby, the Mass is stood upon its head, Man sits upon the throne--Christ the King is "uncrowned."

[Desdemona]

Well, just so you don't get sea-sick. The chop at high tide can be rough.

They think I'm kidding. Where I used to live was a county where the kids in my class had spent three hours on the skipjack before school. Crabbing was done before dawn every day. It was how they made a living.

[sinkspur]

The Saturday Sabbath Vigil was instituted to accomodate fishermen who worked on Sunday morning, which is why it wasn't everywhere. They are on the boats before dawn and there was no Mass for them, so...it became a Mass of convenience for everybody else.

A perfect accommodation. It also relieves the very many people who work on Sunday mornings of the "do I go to work or to Mass" dilemma.

God is a God of common sense, though one would be hard pressed to find Him among some on this forum.

[Desdemona]

I work on Sunday morning, but I rarely go to Mass on Saturday. To do it regularly without real need is a cop-out. I go to 5 pm on Sunday.

[Loyalist]

As St. Chuck has pointed out, look at the Vespers hour in the Divine Office. It begins celebrating the Sabbath on Saturday evening.

But never the Mass, except for those rare and exceptional dispensations for well-considered pastoral reasons. I will concede that much, but no more.

[drstevej]

Pope Piel will have his bonine handy, wouldn't do to have the celebrant green at the gills.

BTW, Jesus gave some great sermons from a boat!

[Desdemona]

BTW, Jesus gave some great sermons from a boat!

Yes, but since He could walk on water, I would imagine boat stablization was a piece of cake. Come to think of it, He did calm the wind.

[Land of the Irish]

Does attending the Easter Vigil satisfy the Easter Sunday obligation? It always has

Never has, never will. Easter is on Sunday, not on Saturday. You are obliged to attend an Easter Mass which can start no sooner than 12:00 AM on Easter Sunday.

[sinkspur]

The whole affair--Lucifer's Rebellion in Heaven; Man's Banishment from Eden; The Flood; The Fall of Babylon; The Renniasance; The Reformation; King Henry VIII and The Anglican Church; Puritan colonization; The American War of Independence; The French Revolution; The Revolution of 1917; Vatican II--all of them are centered upon one concept: Rebellion against God's Reign.

So, the American colonialists war to break free from King George was a "rebellion against God"?

Vatican II was a "rebellion against God"?

Like Buchanan voters and Libertarians, there's a reason monarchists are considered fringe.

Because you're fringe.

[drstevej]

Shouldn't the sucessors of Peter be able to do a walk on water service? [note to self... wear white flotation vest under papal robes]

[sinkspur]

I work on Sunday morning, but I rarely go to Mass on Saturday. To do it regularly without real need is a cop-out. I go to 5 pm on Sunday.

Why is it a "cop out"? You're only marginally better than Loyalist and the Sunday purists.

This is truly bizarre!

[Barnacle]

For what it’s worth, I view Protestants as fellow Christians. Sure I’ve had some knock-down drag-outs with some here on FR. But, that wasn’t because they were Protestant. It was because certain individuals were backward bigoted ignorami bent on attacking my church.

Jesus wants love and harmony among his followers. He made that pretty clear before going home. Catholic or Protestant, we need to respect each other. - Belfast is a bad example!

As with all things in human relations, we should focus on our common ground rather than quibble about differences.

I don’t wish for a reduced Protestant activity on FR, but for good will between Christians.

[sinkspur]

You are obliged to attend an Easter Mass which can start no sooner than 12:00 AM on Easter Sunday.

John Paul II says otherwise. Pius XII said otherwise, too.

But, the Irishman says NO.

Sorry, Irishman. You lose.

[Gamecock]

Let's knock this off long enough to go here to offer our collective prayers: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/915133/posts?page=1

[Land of the Irish]

About as holy as "celebrating" Ascension Thursday on a Sunday.

Any comments? Do the math.

[Desdemona]

About as holy as "celebrating" Ascension Thursday on a Sunday.

Oh, here, I agree. Honestly. I didn't like it when the USCCB decided it and I still don't like it. There's a few others, IMO, that need to be moved back to their real days.