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To: Polycarp
Seriously, no one except an unregenerate liturgical nazi can object to this simple and most pastoral solution to what otherwise could be-come an ugly and divisive situation.

Only the Wanderer, and Al Matt, would think to use the word "nazi" in connection with those who observe the Novus Ordo rubrics.

In parishes where there is a strong wish on the part of some Catholics to receive kneeling, then, by all means, stick a pre-dieu at one of the stations served by a Eucharistic Minister.

Problem solved!

56 posted on 05/13/2003 5:40:43 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur; Polycarp
In parishes where there is a strong wish on the part of some Catholics to receive kneeling, then, by all means, stick a pre-dieu at one of the stations served by a Eucharistic Minister.

And following on my most recent comment, here's but a small example of the tactics they'll use!

59 posted on 05/13/2003 5:43:17 PM PDT by Loyalist (Ceci n'est pas un tagline.)
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To: sinkspur
stick a pre-dieu at one of the stations served by a Eucharistic Minister.

Actually, I think your "doddering seniors" comment was in regard to the resumption of the Tridentine Mass.

The rubrics of that Mass do not allow Eucharistic ministers.

61 posted on 05/13/2003 5:44:39 PM PDT by Polycarp ("When a mother can kill her own child, what is left of the West to save?" - Mother Theresa)
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To: sinkspur
in connection with those who observe the Novus Ordo rubrics

You're being disingenuous. He's not talking about those who observe the Novus Ordo rubrics. He's talking about those who refuse faithful Catholics their RIGHT to kneel.

In which specific case, "unregenerate liturgical nazi" seems a very appropriate term, if a bit too soft on the SOBs who persecute faithful Catholics by refusing to allow them to kneel for Communion.

67 posted on 05/13/2003 5:55:56 PM PDT by Polycarp ("When a mother can kill her own child, what is left of the West to save?" - Mother Theresa)
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To: sinkspur
"stick a pre-dieu at one of the stations served by a Eucharistic Minister."

FYI there are no such things as "Eucharistic Ministers" in the Catholic Church.

There are Ordinary Ministers of the Eucharist - bishops, priests and deacons.

And there are Exceptional Ministers of the Eucharist - acolytes.

And there are Extraordinary Ministers of the Eucharist - the employment of which is reserved for the absence of clergy or acolytes.

However, "Eucharistic Ministers" is descriptive of non-Catholic ministers who carry out "Eucharistic services".
70 posted on 05/13/2003 6:02:28 PM PDT by Tantumergo
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To: sinkspur
Eucharistic Minister

That would be a priest.

There is no such thing as a lay "Eucharistic Minister," as you know. The proper term is "Extraordinary Minister of the Eucharist." (emphasis mine)

121 posted on 05/13/2003 8:37:40 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: sinkspur
stick a pre-dieu at one of the stations served by a Eucharistic Minister.

But, of course, you mean an Extraordinary Eucharistic Minister.

Won't you have a surprise when the document forthcoming also eliminates that bunch from working at Sunday Masses???

What, people who kneel don't deserve to receive Communion from a priest?

123 posted on 05/13/2003 8:44:43 PM PDT by ninenot (Joe McCarthy was RIGHT, but Drank Too Much)
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To: sinkspur
"In parishes where there is a strong wish on the part of some Catholics to receive kneeling, then, by all means, stick a pre-dieu at one of the stations served by a Eucharistic Minister."

The raw malice in that statement is repellent.
177 posted on 05/13/2003 11:11:49 PM PDT by dsc
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To: sinkspur
Only the Wanderer, and Al Matt, would think to use the word "nazi" in connection with those who observe the Novus Ordo rubrics.

In parishes where there is a strong wish on the part of some Catholics to receive kneeling, then, by all means, stick a pre-dieu at one of the stations served by a Eucharistic Minister.


Ah, thank you for demonstrating exactly what a "liturgical nazi' is. I'm sure there are plenty of your tradition-hating brethren out there who would adopt just such a policy to stick it to those who wish to do additional reverence to the Holy Eucharist.
230 posted on 05/14/2003 11:13:02 AM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: sinkspur
"Only the Wanderer, and Al Matt, would think to use the word"nazi" in connection with those who celebrate the Novus Ordo rubrics."

I don't think the Wanderer is refering to those who celebrate the N.O. with the correct rubrics, but those, whether priests or laypeople, who would design their own liturgies which have little resemblance to a Catholic Mass, and come up with their own interpretations of the Sacraments which are heretical or at least bordering on heresy, and then force these things down the throats of others. I have run into these people, fortunately not in my present parish.

If the Church would universally celebrate the N.O as it was meant to be and allow a wider application of the Indult I would think that I had died and gone to heaven.



267 posted on 05/14/2003 5:27:10 PM PDT by k omalley
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