Posted on 05/13/2003 2:08:06 PM PDT by Polycarp
The Return of the Latin Mass?
Exclusive: The Vatican is preparing to call, in the clearest way since the Second Vatican Council, for an end to liturgical abuses -- and for far wider use of the old Latin Mass
“The do-it-yourself Mass is ended. Go in peace.”
By Robert Moynihan
VATICAN CITY, May 13, 2003 – Forty years after the Second Vatican Council, after four decades of liturgical "experimentation" which has troubled many of the faithful, Rome is about to issue a major disciplinary document, ending years of a generally "laissez faire" attitude toward liturgical experimentation and “do-it-youself” Masses.
The document is now in draft form and is expected to be published between October and Christmas this year.
In a bombshell passage, the document will also encourage far wider use of the “old Mass”, the Tridentine rite Mass, in Latin, throughout the Roman Catholic Church.
The new, stricter guidelines for celebrating the liturgy, and the mandate to celebrate the old Latin Mass more widely, even on a weekly basis, in every parish in the world, will be contained in a document to be published by the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments, headed by Nigerian Cardinal Francis Arinze.
“We expect the document to be published before Christmas,” Arinze told "Inside the Vatican" in an exclusive interview. “We want to respond to the spiritual hunger and sorrow so many of the faithful have expressed to us because of liturgical celebrations that seemed irreverent and unworthy of true adoration of God. You might sum up our document with words that echo the final words of the Mass: ‘The do-it-yourself Mass is ended. Go in peace.’”
We will be reporting in more detail on this historic document in future issues of "Inside the Vatican."
Actually, I think your "doddering seniors" comment was in regard to the resumption of the Tridentine Mass.
The rubrics of that Mass do not allow Eucharistic ministers.
"The Faith" is not practiced on velvet clouds. Read Polycarp's recommendation above, and my concurrence.
If it's been done once, it can be done again.
When the Pope reverses the recently-released GIRM and mandates the reinstallation of communion rails in churches, then we'll see what happens.
I suspect JPII won't be doing that in his papacy and even Fabian Bruskewitz in Lincoln is not going to fund additional renovations wholesale to his dioceses' churches.
To you? I never said any of those things.
BTW, you're getting melodramatic, Desie. Must be that head of steam you got last Friday night when you said There's lots of Catholics on this forum who don't like your Catholicism, sinkspur.
My "doddering seniors" comment was ridiculous, in response to the ridiculous "the dog ate my Missal" comments of Loyalist. See?
The rubrics of that Mass do not allow Eucharistic ministers.
Actually, they're "extraordinary Eucharistic Ministers" which likely wouldn't be needed for the Tridentine Masses at most parishes.
You're being disingenuous. He's not talking about those who observe the Novus Ordo rubrics. He's talking about those who refuse faithful Catholics their RIGHT to kneel.
In which specific case, "unregenerate liturgical nazi" seems a very appropriate term, if a bit too soft on the SOBs who persecute faithful Catholics by refusing to allow them to kneel for Communion.
Sink, I've seen you say far worse to orthodox faithful Catholics. ALL of us need to recall "Glass houses and stones."
Yes.
THANK YOU LORD FOR LISTENING TO OUR PRAYERS!
What a great Christmas present this will be!
You're the one that made it an object.
I attend Mass and worship the Good Lord.
"Practicing the Faith" has a rather clinical connotation, to me.
I agree with Poly and somebody else on this list that the liturgy nuts are not to be trusted.
There's a big difference between "nuts" and "nazis." The Wanderer used "nazis," which is not at all surprising.
I once read an editorial, ten years ago, in which somebody at the Wanderer was still railing at priests who go out in public, and to athletic events, in casual dress.
And at the risk of sounding like a judgemental right wing kook, crank, and even (horrors!) integrist, I can't wait to shove this document in my bishop's face.
For high art, I go to the opera or the symphony.
When I go to Mass, I go to worship God and commemorate the sacrifice of His Son.
Well, I'll take your word that such people exist.
I've seen people kneel to receive the Eucharist in our parish, and the poor Eucharistic Minister struggle with them to help them to their feet.
People who want to receive kneeling should practice the art during the week, especially the "getting up" part. Do some lunges or something.
Kneel before God and get some exercise at the same time.
A priest I know, who has never celebrated "that Mass", calls them Eucharistic monsters.
I've said some pretty awful things to the schismatics, but I don't recall ripping anyone in union with Rome. But, I may have.
Mea culpa.
But you can still get one on eBay.... ;)
Ah heck, risk it anyway.
I'll do the same w/ my bishop if you will, lol!
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