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"But I noticed one thing: That most of the souls there are those who disbelieved that there is a hell." (Diary 741)"
1 posted on 05/09/2003 5:37:15 PM PDT by Land of the Irish
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To: Land of the Irish
Bump.
2 posted on 05/09/2003 6:13:29 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Land of the Irish
Whew, hope I never see that.

I've read the vision of hell that St. John Bosco had.

Gotta keep saying that Divine Mercy Chaplet.

3 posted on 05/09/2003 6:16:33 PM PDT by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Land of the Irish

Jesus, I Trust In You

I promise that the soul that will venerate this image will not perish. I also promise victory over its enemies already here on earth, especially at the hour of death. I myself will defend it as My own glory. (Diary 48)

Thank you for this post and its timely reminder.

5 posted on 05/09/2003 6:46:22 PM PDT by NYer (Laudate Dominum)
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To: Land of the Irish
"That most of the souls there are those who disbelieved that there is a hell." (Diary 741)"

I've recently been quibbling with some of those people on a local site. They made the usual arguments about "a god who would judge and punish is no better than we are," and "I can't believe in a god that would punish us for all eternity because that's so petty" et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

I failed to answer them correctly.

While looking at the Divine Mercy image, it came to me: it's not that God is punishing us; it's that He's honoring our own decision to go with Satan instead of with Him.

We have our choice. He wants us to choose Him. But if we don't, if we choose Satan, He allows Satan to take us.

Is that theologically sound?

Still, that leaves the problem of those who are born into societies that routinely practice evil. One could argue that some people were and are not given a "fair" chance to choose God.

Can anybody respond to that one?
10 posted on 05/10/2003 6:34:46 AM PDT by dsc
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To: Land of the Irish
Divine Mercy Novena

A message of Mercy and Trust (Actress Portrays Diary of Divine Mercy Through One Woman Show)

The Message of Divine Mercy

Divine Mercy

Chaplet of Divine Mercy

(Divine) Mercy Blossoms in Asia: American leaders are amazed by growth of Divine Mercy in Far East

Miracle Cure Brings Sainthood to Polish Nun (Divine Mercy)

Movement (Divine Mercy) once banned becomes guiding force in Pope's life

Text of John Paul II's Homily at the Dedication Mass of the Shrine of the Divine Mercy

Pope Consecrates Basilica of Divine Mercy

Sister Faustina's Vision of Hell

16 posted on 05/11/2003 8:59:12 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Land of the Irish
I attended a Polish parish on Divine Mercy Sunday and heard the chaplet in Polish and English.
17 posted on 05/11/2003 9:19:24 PM PDT by ELS
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Number 6 leads me to believe this is a false vision quite clearly.

The idea that Satan is some sort of "leader" of Hell having a good jolly old time poking people with pitchforks is the stuff of cartoons, not the Bible. If this person saw Satan not being punished, but doing the punishing, she saw a false vision. She saw something planted in her not by God, but by the devil himself.
19 posted on 05/11/2003 10:51:54 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (Blessed be the Lord, the God of Israel!)
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