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“Oh, how great is a priest!" [The Curé d'Ars regarding bishops/priests)
The Curé d'Ars prayer group ^ | The Curé D’ars

Posted on 04/29/2003 8:25:06 AM PDT by Polycarp

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To: american colleen
Sure.

Salvation from sin is used in the Bible in three tenses:

PAST: "I have been saved" from the Penalty of sin (justification)

PRESENT: "I am being saved" from the Power of sin (sanctification)

FUTURE: "I shall be saved" from the Presence of sin (glorification)

The passage you cite is a reference to the present tense sense (sanctification).

BTW, it is one of my favorite passages.
21 posted on 05/03/2003 2:36:24 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: drstevej
Gotta run, thanks for the reply. I will re-read St. Paul's words with what you have posted in mind.
22 posted on 05/03/2003 2:40:56 PM PDT by american colleen
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To: american colleen
Fair enough. The key is the distinction between justification (what Christ has done FOR us) and sanctification (what Christ is doing IN us). They are not the same.
23 posted on 05/03/2003 2:43:01 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: drstevej
What a sec... then I have to go and take my daughter and her friends to the Mall to see Lizzie McGuire's new movie - :-(

You say: PRESENT: "I am being saved" from the Power of sin (sanctification)

But if he believes he is being saved, why is he working it out in trembling and fear? What is he working out if he is already being saved and why would he tremble and fear about it since it is a done deal? I think I miss some nuances here.

Be back later!

24 posted on 05/03/2003 2:44:00 PM PDT by american colleen
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To: american colleen
Fear and trembling (reverence and awe). The pursuit of holiness for Paul was not a casual stroll, it was living in the presence of a holy and awesome God. One who does not know the fear and awe of the Lord is not progressing in sanctification.

Have fun with your daughter.
25 posted on 05/03/2003 2:49:36 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: COBOL2Java

BTTT!


26 posted on 08/04/2007 8:05:12 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Polycarp

Worth bumping.


27 posted on 08/04/2008 8:49:07 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Polycarp
Saint John Mary Vianney, Priest, Cure of Ars

Saint John Mary Vianney, Priest
Cure of Ars


Memorial
August 4th

unknown artist

(1786-1859) Born new Lyons, France, he was ordained in 1815 in Grenoble, and in 1818 was assigned to the parish of Ars, where he spent the rest of his life. He was best known for his steadfast care of souls, for his spirit of prayer and mortification and, above all, for his tireless dedication to the Sacrament of Penance. He spent most of his life in the confessional, drawing energy from his intimate and constant friendship with our Lord in the Eucharist. Pius XI declared him Patron of Parish Priest.

Source: Daily Roman Missal, Edited by Rev. James Socías, Midwest Theological Forum, Chicago, Illinois ©2003

Collect:
Father of mercy,
you made St. John Vianney outstanding
in his priestly zeal and concern for your people.
By his example and prayers,
enable us to win our brothers and sisters
to the love of Christ
and come with them to eternal glory.
We ask this through our Lord Jesus Christ, your Son,
who lives and reigns with you and the Holy Spirit,
one God, for ever and ever. Amen.

First Reading:Ezekiel 3:17-21
At the end of seven days, the word of the Lord came to me: "Son of man, I have made you a watchman for the house of Israel; whenever you hear a word from My mouth, you shall give them warning from Me. If I say to the wicked, 'You shall surely die,' and you give him no warning, nor speak to warn the wicked from his wicked way, in order to save his life, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood I will require at your hand. But if you warn the wicked, and he does not turn from his wickedness, or from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but you will have saved your life. Again, if a righteous man turns from his righteousness and commits iniquity, and I lay a stumbling block before him, he shall die; because you have not warned him, he shall die for his sin, and his righteous deeds which he has done shall not be remembered; but his blood I will require at your hand. Nevertheless if you warn the righteous man not to sin, and he does not sin, he shall surely live, because he took warning; and you will have saved your life."

Gospel Reading:Matthew 9:35-10:1
Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every disease and every infirmity. When He saw the crowds, He had compassion for them, because they were harassed and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd. Then He said to His disciples, "The harvest is plentiful, but the laborers are few; pray therefore the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into His harvest."

And He called to Him His twelve disciples and gave them authority over unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal every disease and every infirmity.


SACERDOTII NOSTRI PRIMORDIA -- On the Priesthood --ENCYCLICAL OF POPE JOHN XXIII -- Centennial Celebration of ST. JOHN VIANNEY


St. John Vianney Prayer

"O my God, come to me, so that You may dwell in me and I may dwell in you."


28 posted on 08/04/2009 9:36:23 AM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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