What day was Jesus Crucified??

It's very well reasoned and full of so many interesting details. I personally love to study the character of God from the OT shadowings and types, so I like this study too!!

Have you ever read any A.W. Pink?

I am not a calvinist, but some of his work is excellent.

No, Ive stayed away from his stuff because of the calvinism

Here is the church I attend:

http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org

He would have been crucified on the same day as Passover, his atoning blood beginning to be shed in the Garden of Gethsemane on what would have been Wednesday, leading to his crucifixion that same day (or what we would call Thursday.) This would lead to the third day resurrection on Sunday. It would make sense for the Romans to release a prisoner after the Passover meal, in keeping with the release of the Jews from bondage the day following the Passover night.

Yes, Pink did turn to calvinism later in his writings. But boy oh boy! His writings and studies in the OT books and about the Life of David are just a joy to read.

I'll take a look at the church web page tomorrow. I think I have heard of it.

Oh yes, I have, from Bro. CLoud!!

You missed it then, go back and read on the day of preparation, and also, how the body was not supposed to be on the cross when the Sabbath began, that's why they went to break their legs.

It could NOT have been the Passover day.

This article is a lot to wade through but you are correct.

but it was this day, the 10th, that it was to be declared to be THE LAMB, the one they would sacrifice and eat.

Corresponds to the Song of Assent, Messianic prophecy of the triumphant entry, "This is the day the Lord has made, let us rejoice and be glad in it". THE DAY was Sunday where Jesus finally allowed himself to be worshipped as king and told the religious leaders who complained of the blasphemy that if the people held their peace on THAT DAY, the rocks would cry out. This was on Sunday the 10th. He was crucified on Good Thursday afternoon the 14th, Passover. The next day Friday was the first day of the Feast of Unleavened, another sabboth, and Saturday was as you said the normal Sabboth. He then rose on the 3rd day, Sunday morning.

During the week Jesus lamented over the city of Jerusalem and said because they did not understand bible prophecy predicting his triumphal entry to Jerusalem on "THAT DAY", Sunday, Jerusalem would be destroyed, because they "knew not the day of their visitation", referring to the prophecy of "This is the day the Lord has made" on that Sunday, prophesied by Daniel to be 483 years to the day from the day commandment was given to rebuild Jerusalem in Daniel 9:25 at the end of the Babylonian captivity:

Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince (the Sunday of his triumphal entry when he would present himself as the Meschiach, or Messiah, of Israel) [shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

Seven weeks (of years) and threescore and two weeks (of years) = 69 x 7 = 483 years from the day of the commandment to restore and rebuild Jerusalem at the end of the Babylonian captivity to Palm Sunday on the 10th of Nisan, 32AD.

You missed it then, go back and read on the day of preparation, and also, how the body was not supposed to be on the cross when the Sabbath began, that's why they went to break their legs.
It could NOT have been the Passover day.

I think this was a very well reasoned argument. I would just differ on a couple of small details.

1. He had to be crucified on Passover. One day before wasn't close enough for him to be "our passover is sacrificed for us" (1 Co 5:7)

2. Your article makes the supposition that the lambs were killed before Nisan 14, on the afternoon of Nisan 13.

Exo 12:6 And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening.

You stated that Jewish tradition said the lambs were killed at 3 PM on the 13th. This would seem to violate Gods command. It hinges on the word "evening". I believe if you do a study on this word, you'll find that it must pertain to the time period after the sunsets, or just after the sunsets, but surely not in the afternoon.

3. Is Passover a sabbath biblically?

Lev 23:5 In the fourteenth [day] of the first month at even [is] the LORD'S passover.

Notice that there is no injunction against working.

Lev 23:6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month [is] the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
Lev 23:7 In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.

These verses are linked. Unleavened bread begins the 15th and being the first day of unleavened bread, it's a sabbath, a day of rest.

Lev 23:8 But ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD seven days: in the seventh day [is] an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work [therein].

As is the last day.

So how does this fit in? Jesus had his passover meal with the disciples on Tuesday night, just after sunset, the time when the lambs would have been slain. He instituted two new ordinances and TOLD us that the bread represents his body, and the wine his shed blood. He did this at the same time the lambs were to be killed.

He died on passover at around 3 pm Wednesday and had to be buried before the sabbath of the first day of unleavened bread started because it wasn't legal to bury corpses on the sabbath. He was entombed just before sunset.

As you said, he HAD to be in the grave 3 days and 3 nights or else he was not the messiah. It was the only sign that told us that he would be:

Mat 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Anyways, I think these are relatively minor points and I congratulate you on proving the truth for yourself.

Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

That's the only verse (besides the Jonah reference) mentioning "three days and three nights", in the context of what might be a metaphor for a grave, but it says "son of man", not "I" or "Jesus". Now we know that he did refer to Himself with that phrase, but can we safely assume that was always the case? After all, Ezekiel was addressed as "son of man" many times, Daniel once. There could be others but those are the only two I have found. Plus there is this tidbit regarding two prophets:

Revelation 11:7-12

7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

Mat 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

heart of the earth

Matthew 6:19-24

19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!
24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

***

Matthew 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Matthew 24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

It's not about esteeming one day above another, it's about seeing that God is absolutely accurate in His deeds...

I like that explanation. I try to be as "Christian" on May 25 as I am on Dec 25 or Easter!!!

Seven weeks (of years) and threescore and two weeks (of years) = 69 x 7 = 483 years from the day of the commandment to restore and rebuild Jerusalem...

This assumes that the commandment was issued by Artaxerxes, in Nehemiah chapter 2, and that the other end of the timeline is in Nisan, at or near the crucifixion. That's a funny time for the Messiah to arrive, esp. since he'd been preaching for 3+ years.

Well, what if the commandment ("word") was God's, and it was issued in the month of Kislev, as soon as Nehemiah prayed about it? The pattern is described in Daniel 9, verses 23 and 25:

Daniel 9:23 At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment came forth, and I am come to shew thee; for thou art greatly beloved: therefore understand the matter, and consider the vision.

Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

Compare Nehemiah 1 with Daniel 9.

Nehemiah 1:1-6

1 The words of Nehemiah the son of Hachaliah. And it came to pass in the month Chisleu, in the twentieth year, as I was in Shushan the palace,
2 That Hanani, one of my brethren, came, he and certain men of Judah; and I asked them concerning the Jews that had escaped, which were left of the captivity, and concerning Jerusalem.
3 And they said unto me, The remnant that are left of the captivity there in the province are in great affliction and reproach: the wall of Jerusalem also is broken down, and the gates thereof are burned with fire.
4 And it came to pass, when I heard these words, that I sat down and wept, and mourned certain days, and fasted, and prayed before the God of heaven,
5 And said, I beseech thee, O LORD God of heaven, the great and terrible God, that keepeth covenant and mercy for them that love him and observe his commandments:
6 Let thine ear now be attentive, and thine eyes open, that thou mayest hear the prayer of thy servant, which I pray before thee now, day and night, for the children of Israel thy servants, and confess the sins of the children of Israel, which we have sinned against thee: both I and my father's house have sinned.

***

Luke 4:16-21

16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.
17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,
18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
20 And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.
21 And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.

This Haftarah (Isaiah 61:1-2) is the 34th reading of the 3rd year of the triennial cycle, and would correspond to the end of Heshvan or the beginning of Kislev, 29 AD. 1 Kislev was a Sabbath.

The crucifixion appears to have divided time, down the middle.

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, [gap] and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

To be continued with the wrath of the [Pesach] lamb...

I like that explanation. I try to be as "Christian" on May 25 as I am on Dec 25 or Easter!!!

Amen to that! If we hold a few days to be "higher" than others, it should not affect how we walk on the "other" days. I believe a Christian is a Christian 24/7/365.

you err.

(Lev 23:1 KJV) And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,

(Lev 23:2 KJV) Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.

(Lev 23:3 KJV) Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.

(Lev 23:4 KJV) These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.

Each feast was a Holy Convocation, that means there was to be no servile work, it is a Sabbath day.

I visited your church's website, and I see a lot of interesting stuff to look through. One that particulary struck me was the "vicarious Law-keeping" link. I had no idea anyone actually thought that! It seems very obvious to me that Christ's sinless life was what qualified Him to be our substitute in death, and the righteousness imputed to us stems from His resurrection and our union with Him not only in His death, but in His resurrection. We are joined to Christ, so that the Righteousness of God in Christ is ours as well, by virtue of our vital and living union with Him by faith. It is the Righteousness of Christ, but God sees us in union with Christ. Christ identified with us, that we might be identified with Christ.

I am going to spend some more time looking through the various links at your church's website. Very interesting information!

(Lev 23:4 KJV) These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
Each feast was a Holy Convocation, that means there was to be no servile work, it is a Sabbath day.

I would disagree on your definition. A convocation is a meeting, a calling together of the faithful. The Israelites were to proclaim when these meetings were.

However the command not to do servile work seems to be separate and distinct:

First day of ULB:

Lev 23:7 In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.

Last day of ULB:

Lev 23:8 But ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD seven days: in the seventh day [is] an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work [therein].

Pentecost:

Lev 23:21 And ye shall proclaim on the selfsame day, [that] it may be an holy convocation unto you: ye shall do no servile work [therein: it shall be] a statute for ever in all your dwellings throughout your generations.

Feast of Trumpets:

Lev 23:25 Ye shall do no servile work [therein]: but ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD.

Day of Atonement:

Lev 23:28 And ye shall do no work in that same day: for it [is] a day of atonement, to make an atonement for you before the LORD your God.

First day of feast of tabernacles:

Lev 23:35 On the first day [shall be] an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work [therein].

Last Great Day:

Lev 23:36 Seven days ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD: on the eighth day shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD: it [is] a solemn assembly; [and] ye shall do no servile work [therein].

As I say, I read this to mean that Passover, while proclaimed by God to be a feast of the Lord, wasn't proclaimed to be a sabbath of rest whereas the rest of God's feast days were.

That's the only verse (besides the Jonah reference) mentioning "three days and three nights", in the context of what might be a metaphor for a grave, but it says "son of man", not "I" or "Jesus". Now we know that he did refer to Himself with that phrase, but can we safely assume that was always the case? After all, Ezekiel was addressed as "son of man" many times, Daniel once. There could be others but those are the only two I have found. Plus there is this tidbit regarding two prophets:

I believe he chose "heart of the earth" specifically to draw a parallel to a previous verse:

Mat 12:35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.

I believe that part of the point he was making was that a good thing would come out of the heart of the earth after three days and three nights.

And though it's the only verse that says three days and three nights, it was spoken by Christ and it was confirmed that others heard it and understood it's meaning:

Mat 27:62 Now the next day, that followed the day of the preparation, the chief priests and Pharisees came together unto Pilate,
Mat 27:63 Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, After three days I will rise again.

Notice that this too confirms three days and three nights:

Jesus buried just before sunset wednesday - 1 night in grave
next day Thursday - 1 day in grave
next night thursday - 2 nights
next day friday - 2 days
next friday - 3 nights
next day saturday - 3 days

. The verse said that "After three days" he will rise again. This fits perfectly with Christ's sign.

I guess I can't quite see what you were driving at, but if I understand correctly are you saying you believe it to be a future prophecy of someone else?

Romans 14:5 One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind.

I did want to address this since it's commonly used to make the case that God's Holy Days have been done away with. I submit that they've been done away with more based on custom and tradition than biblical mandate.

The number one problem using this verse to justify that God's days are done away with is that it appears in a chapter entirely devoted to eating an drinking practices. A reading of Romans 14 will confirm this.

Another problem is that there are distinct and separate greek words used for God's Holy Days in the new testament, none of which are used in this text. A concordance will verify this.

One has to read into it that these refer to God's Holy Days. They in fact probably refer to days that some fasted on.

I was merely attempting to approach the content logically, without making any assumptions based upon accepted traditions. Kind of like cleaning out the chametz and starting fresh.

I was merely attempting to approach the content logically, without making any assumptions based upon accepted traditions. Kind of like cleaning out the chametz and starting fresh.

I have to admit that your posts do have that effect. :-)

I really appreciate your posts because I really start digging into scripture when you post to make sure that I'm not doing that very same thing. :-)

You keep missing it!!

(Exo 12:6 KJV) And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening.

(Exo 12:7 KJV) And they shall take of the blood, and strike it on the two side posts and on the upper door post of the houses, wherein they shall eat it.

(Exo 12:8 KJV) And they shall eat the flesh in that night, roast with fire, and unleavened bread; and with bitter herbs they shall eat it.

(Exo 12:9 KJV) Eat not of it raw, nor sodden at all with water, but roast with fire; his head with his legs, and with the purtenance thereof.

(Exo 12:10 KJV) And ye shall let nothing of it remain until the morning; and that which remaineth of it until the morning ye shall burn with fire.

.............

(Exo 12:14 KJV) And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to the LORD throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.

(Exo 12:15 KJV) Seven days shall ye eat unleavened bread; even the first day ye shall put away leaven out of your houses: for whosoever eateth leavened bread from the first day until the seventh day, that soul shall be cut off from Israel.

(Exo 12:16 KJV) And in the first day there shall be an holy convocation, and in the seventh day there shall be an holy convocation to you; no manner of work shall be done in them, save that which every man must eat, that only may be done of you.

Notice, that at the very first day of the 7 day feast, is the 14th, the Passover night, the first hours of the Passover begin at 6pm. That might be where you are missing it, the Jewish day begins at 6pm!! NOT Midnight!

It is commanded in Exodus to do no servile work.

(Exo 12:16 KJV) And in the first day there shall be an holy convocation, and in the seventh day there shall be an holy convocation to you; no manner of work shall be done in them, save that which every man must eat, that only may be done of you.

That means that in order to eat the Passover Lamb in the evening of the 14th, which begins at 6pm, which is the beginning of the Jewish Day, 6pm, the Lamb had to be killed on the afternoon of the 13th, in order for the meal to be prepared and eaten on the evening of the 14th, because if they killed the animal on the afternoon of the 14th, the actual Jewish Calander day of the Passover, and cooked it right away, it would be THE 15TH by the time the food got off the fire and on the table, and the Passover would be past! It would be the NEXT Holy Day, the Feast of First Fruits.

By your own post, you showed the verses that prove one of my points:

First day of ULB:
Lev 23:7 In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
Last day of ULB:
Lev 23:8 But ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD seven days: in the seventh day [is] an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work [therein].

The Passover, the 14th, is THE FIRST DAY OF THE FEAST OF UNLEAVENED BREAD.

(Exo 12:18 KJV) In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month at even, ye shall eat unleavened bread, until the one and twentieth day of the month at even.

The 14th to the 21st is one week, the Feast of Unleavened Bread is to be 7 days, that is clear from this verse what dates define that week.

This was on Sunday the 10th. He was crucified on Good Thursday afternoon the 14th, Passover. The next day Friday was the first day of the Feast of Unleavened, another sabboth, and Saturday was as you said the normal Sabboth. He then rose on the 3rd day, Sunday morning.

No, you missed it a little, Jesus BEING the Passover Lamb, The Lamb Of God, had to be killed FOR the Passover.

Remember, the Passover Lamb had to be killed in order to be eaten for the Passover Meal, and that starts anytime after 6pm, the start of the day according to the Jewish Calander. For Christ to be Killed After the Passover Lamb was killed, a full day after, He would not be THE LAMB OF GOD. Remember, it was only when the Blood of the slain Lamb was applied on the 14th that the Angel of Death passed over, and according to Exodus:

(Exo 12:28 KJV) And the children of Israel went away, and did as the LORD had commanded Moses and Aaron, so did they.

(Exo 12:29 KJV) And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle.

Note, it is still the 14th, and only 6 hours into the 14th, the Lamb could not have been killed, and roasted over a spit and eaten in that time period!

Remember, the Angel of Death was only deadly for those who WERE NOT UNDER THE BLOOD, so, if Christ's death on the cross came AFTER the time period of the Angel of Death's appearance, it would b totally out of sync of God plan, it's timing would not be miraclulous, in fact, it would not even be co-incidental.