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To: man of Yosemite
You missed it then, go back and read on the day of preparation, and also, how the body was not supposed to be on the cross when the Sabbath began, that's why they went to break their legs.

It could NOT have been the Passover day.
25 posted on 04/16/2003 9:11:53 PM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: RaceBannon
You missed it then, go back and read on the day of preparation, and also, how the body was not supposed to be on the cross when the Sabbath began, that's why they went to break their legs.
It could NOT have been the Passover day.

I think this was a very well reasoned argument. I would just differ on a couple of small details.

1. He had to be crucified on Passover. One day before wasn't close enough for him to be "our passover is sacrificed for us" (1 Co 5:7)

2. Your article makes the supposition that the lambs were killed before Nisan 14, on the afternoon of Nisan 13.

Exo 12:6 And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening.

You stated that Jewish tradition said the lambs were killed at 3 PM on the 13th. This would seem to violate Gods command. It hinges on the word "evening". I believe if you do a study on this word, you'll find that it must pertain to the time period after the sunsets, or just after the sunsets, but surely not in the afternoon.

3. Is Passover a sabbath biblically?

Lev 23:5 In the fourteenth [day] of the first month at even [is] the LORD'S passover.

Notice that there is no injunction against working.

Lev 23:6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month [is] the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
Lev 23:7 In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.

These verses are linked. Unleavened bread begins the 15th and being the first day of unleavened bread, it's a sabbath, a day of rest.

Lev 23:8 But ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD seven days: in the seventh day [is] an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work [therein].

As is the last day.

So how does this fit in? Jesus had his passover meal with the disciples on Tuesday night, just after sunset, the time when the lambs would have been slain. He instituted two new ordinances and TOLD us that the bread represents his body, and the wine his shed blood. He did this at the same time the lambs were to be killed.

He died on passover at around 3 pm Wednesday and had to be buried before the sabbath of the first day of unleavened bread started because it wasn't legal to bury corpses on the sabbath. He was entombed just before sunset.

As you said, he HAD to be in the grave 3 days and 3 nights or else he was not the messiah. It was the only sign that told us that he would be:

Mat 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Anyways, I think these are relatively minor points and I congratulate you on proving the truth for yourself.

27 posted on 04/16/2003 10:17:34 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: RaceBannon
Luke22:13-16: And they went, and found as he had said unto them: and they made ready the passover. And when the hour was come, he sat down, and the twelve apostles with him. And he said unto them, "With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer: For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God."
Would the sinless Son of God violate the law in eating the passover on a day contrary to the law? He would not. If he ate the passover meal, it must have been passover. His crucifixion less than 24 hours later would mean that he died on the passover. Passover itself is a foreshadow of Christ's suffering, therefore, Christ would have died on that particular day. Nobody's timing is better than God's, and the Messiah's resurrection proved his sinless condition, verifying him as the Son of God. Jesus said that he had come into the world for that very hour, so I don't think he got his days wrong.
61 posted on 04/19/2003 9:15:01 AM PDT by man of Yosemite ("When a man decides to do something everyday, that's about when he stops doing it.")
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