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Satan Joins The Moonies! ~Sun Myung Moon has often said that he came to restore everything that was lost. Man fell from the beginning, Moon says, Satan had a sexual relationship with Eve and sin entered the world, passed down through the lineage so that all are born as children of Satan rather than children of God. The Moonies are passionate about their belief that All will eventually be saved. Including Satan himself. Well, Moon's job to restore satan has suddenly become much easier: Satan Has Joined The Moonies! Satan Works For Moon Now! ~Right about now, some of you must think I am joking or something. Right? Well, I'm not! Recently, Moon claimed that Satan has repented of his historic sins, and even wrote a letter to God and Rev. Moon (This is what Moon actually claims!) and in the letter Satan said he was sorry for his sins. He also promised to start working hard for Rev. Moon from now on. Well, sadly Rev. Moon has not made very much progress in saving the world with only God on his side, but now that Satan has joined the team, maybe that will change? Here is a direct quote from Moon where he claims Satan has repented and is now working for the Moonies: Excerpted from: SUN MYUNG MOON LEADERS' MEETING May 1, 1996 East Garden Translator Peter Kim This is the way we can liberate Hell. Hell on the Earth and in the spiritual world will be liberated. You are presently residing in the physical hell of your physical body. How can we liberate this physical hell and then the spiritual hell? Now Grandmother Hong and Heung Jin Nim are working together to liberate hell in the spiritual world. They mobilized the fallen Archangel Lucifer. Even Lucifer has repented and confessed and is now being used to work to liberate all those evil spirits in this physical world as well as the spiritual world. Satan had repented Moon said. And so it was only right that Moon forgive satan and welcome him back into the family of God. Isn't it comforting for you to know that Satan is actually your friend and co-worker now? In a transcript of a prayer found on a Unification News Website in Korea, Moon had a little more to say about Satan, and he said it in a prayer to God: Excerpted from: True Parent's Prayer You gave Satan a chance to indemnify the faults that he committed. He did not love humanity as God's children but rather stole them from God and turned them against Him. The time when God could command Satan to correct his wrongs and clean up the fallen lineage came when God gave him the ultimatum on March 21. Satan apologized to God and claimed he would support Him to create the ideal garden of love. He confessed all his sins before True Parents to be forgiven. He confessed and apologized all he had done wrong to humanity. Please, Heavenly Father, take pity on him as he is asking for forgiveness from You and True Parents. As we, True Parents, unify heaven and earth, we bring peace between God and Satan and establish unity between God, Satan and humanity. We combined that unity into one single lineage of God. Well, what can you say? Satan is even more than a friend now. In the words above, Moon has basically called him "family". Are you sure you members really want to stay in the Unification Church at this point? You Can Safely Follow Satan! ~Satan and Moon have not just recently met, by the way. Oh no. They have been in quite a long term relationship. In fact, Moon has had some pretty fascinating (and bizzare) things to say about Satan over the years. He told his early followers that they could safely follow Satan. That's right. He told them that as long as they were sincere in following Satan, that Satan would not be able to handle their sincerity and he would eventually bring them to God himself. So, follow Satan, and he will bring you to God. I wonder what some of Moon's paid Christian Ministers would think about this guidance from Moon? Probably they wouldn't care, as those participating with Moon, do so because they share the same God: Money. Here is an excerpt that comes from a book by one of Moon's earliest followers, Won Pil Kim: Excerpted from: Won Pil Kim Father's Course and our Life of Faith Chapter 3 - Mistakes I'd like to tell you another story. Already 30 or 40 years before Father went up to North Korea there were religious groups there which had been prepared to welcome the Second Advent. Father visited one of them. One day he said to them: "If you believe Satan's word completely and absolutely to the end as God's word and if you attend him, even Satan will take you to God." Suppose you believe, learn and practice Satan's word completely and actually you attend Satan, Satan won't take you to himself but to God. Do you understand clearly? I'll explain it, taking an example. Take one brother -- Mr. Tanahashi. Now here is another brother who believes in and attends Mr. Tanahashi very much. But this brother has a misunderstanding that Mr. Tanahashi is John. He has a firm conviction that he is attending John, even though he is actually attending Mr. Tanahashi. Then is Mr. Tanahashi happy or not? Satan knows why people are attending him: they mistake Satan for God and attend him just as earnestly as they attend God. They listen to Satan's words absolutely. Then Satan can't make them his own since they believe completely that they are attending God, not Satan. Therefore Satan thinks they should go to God, not to him; Satan leads them to God. Suppose we happen to believe and follow even Satan's word as God's word; as long as we believe and follow it completely, we'll be led to God not to Satan. Father had this much faith -- it's incredible, isn't it? It's not "incredible", it's disgusting. And stupid too. The Bible says that Satan is a liar and a murderer, but Sun Myung Moon knows better than the Bible, and he is convinced that though Satan lies and murders, Satan would never be able to handle sincerity, and would politely bring people to the real God. Actually, it is not all that surprising that Moon would be so close to Satan. They have alot in common. The name Lucifer (who became Satan) actually means "Light Bearer". And interestingly, Moon's name "Sun Myung Moon" means: "Shining Truth". But the Bible also shares that Lucifer (satan) is an angel that disguises himself as light, and appears as light, but that in actuality, he is a liar and deceiver. The Bible calls satan: "That Ancient Serpent", and "The Dragon". Similarly, Moon's name "Sun Myung Moon" (Shining Truth) is not the name he was born with. Moon changed his name when he decided to pretend to be the messiah. Moon's real name is: "Young Myung Moon" which means: SHINING DRAGON in Korean. Hmmm....no wonder Moon loves Satan so much?     STRANGE BUT TRUE - SECTION Moon & Houdini Moon's African Son? Moon's "Spiritual" Mistresses Moonie Science Satan Joins The Moonies Moon Marries Jesus, and Hitler and...   HOME

[Wrigley]

I was watering plants and realized you may need some attention too.

[DouglasKC]

Those who do not recognize that there is only ONE GOD and that the ONE TRUE and LIVING GOD is a triune God, are NOT Christians. Period.

Can you show me where the bible defines triune God? What definition of triune God are you basing this on?

[Alex Murphy]

What "point" did you wish to make, that I should address?

You neglected to answer mine as well. Moloch worship - what about it? And I agree with P-Marlowe, in that you're trying to change the subject to a question of our (and your) character. If we attack your character, you have my full permission to call foul - or press the ABUSE button if you wish - on me and "my ilk".

Now, back to my prior quesion - Moloch worship. Same god?

[Alex Murphy]

JR also defined it - by his profound silence - as allowing me to say "it's been my observation that group X, as a whole, are bigots", but we're not going there for the moment.

I'm trying to have a civil debate with you, myself. You're avoiding the subject with me, and changing the subject with P-Marlowe. Continue, and you lose by default. But at least I'll still try to shake hands with you afterwards.

[Illbay]

I have no idea what you're talking about.

"Moloch" is not worshipped by anyone these days that I know of--except maybe the pro-abortion crowd.

[Illbay]

I apologize profusely for my failure in this regard, but I haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about.

Maybe you can indulge my abject ignorance, and refrain the question in a way that my inferior mind can understand.

[drstevej]

Illbay(FRmascot): It IS bashing to say "Catholics are all under the spell of these popes who are the Anti-Christ! They need to wake up before they find themselves in the pit of Hell burning forever!" 

drstevej: I see. What about this statement...

Also, you ignore the fact that, despite all the hellish efforts of god-forsaken, Satan-spawned heathens like yourself, murdering, raping and trying your best to destroy it, the latter-day work of TRUTH has only gotten stronger, and that the ultimate prophecy of Joseph Smith--that the Lord is God, that Jesus is the Christ, that the Book of Mormon is true, and that the Church will never be destroyed from off the face of the earth despite the worst efforts of the hell-spawn such as continue to infest these threads--is coming to pass every single day.

Tremble, ye demons of the infernal pit. Rant, rail and spew your lying filth all your can, while you can. Soon you'll be locked away in the infernal pit, and the godly will be rid of you and your devilish deeds forever.

Wonder who made that statement? Could it be.......... ILLBAY!

[Illbay]

Well, this was a PERSONAL attack, not an attack on a whole religion.

N.B. This is one of the few times I've responded to you, or will respond to you. I just thought it might be helpful for you to know that the response that you are quoting was in answer to your abject and disgusting bigotry toward my faith, a personal observation.

I don't despise all Calvinists. Just you and your "merry" band.

[Alex Murphy]

I apologize profusely for my failure in this regard, but I haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about. Maybe you can indulge my abject ignorance, and refrain the question in a way that my inferior mind can understand.

I hope your mind will improve for the experience....

In the thread Where have all the FR Protestants Gone?, which as you know evolved into a discussion of what constituted "bashing behavior", CTID made the following comment:

"The reason I think that a lot of Protestants on FR are bigots is because they're acting like bigots, not because I'm paranoid or hallucinating."

I accused CTID of Protestant bashing, and he responded:

...(c)alling someone a bigot as an observation is not "smearing" and "bashing." I'm not misrepresenting anyone's beliefs; I'm making an observation on people's actions. The owner of the site seems to be in agreement.

I contacted JR and the mods (sounds like a bad 60s acid rock band, I know) to a) confirm if CTID's statement was bashing, and b) if CTID speaks for the mods. I addressed this to both JR and the Admin Mod three times - twice in the forum, and once privately. They steadfastly refused to respond, or to address/remove the offending comment.

Therefore, I made the following conclusion, which I still maintain - until the mods decide to address CTID's post or amend their "civility/bashing" rules, that is:

..."Can't say I'm not disappointed, Jim. I'm taking from your silence that CTID is correct, and his behavior - especially on this thread - has your approval. Since CTID has been given a License to Bash Observe by the mods, hereafter I start assuming that I have been given a License to Bash Observe, too.".

Thus, in this forum we currently enjoy the License to Observe, baby. Suck eggs or change your behavior, if you don't like what we observe.

[Delphinium]

god-forsaken, Satan-spawned heathens like yourself, murdering, raping

Now is that bashing anothers Christian belief?

[tame]

I love your profile page! Absolutely hilarious! ROTFLM_O!

[tame]

Re: post #71...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!!

[tame]

Whew! I thought you were stepping over the line until I read that part.

Hee hee hee hee hee hee hee:-)

[Illbay]

I'm sorry, but your intellect is obviously so far above mine, that I still don't get the point of your rant.

You seem to be upset about something. It appears you think that the Moderators owe you some sort of explanation, failing which they have to accept your definition of whatever it is, and must shut down the site or something.

I hope you find what you're looking for.

Peace, baby.

[JesseShurun]

there ain't no crying in baseball Where did this saying come form (sic)

If you read the threads you'd know

[JesseShurun]

People like you and JesseShurun and others would howl, stamp and gnash their teeth about my "anti-Semitism

Talking bout me behind my back again or just "my ilk"?

I never howl, stamp or gnash my teeth at your insults and inanities, and you know it-- oh wait.. I DO howl... with laughter

[restornu]

No I use to hear that in a commerical after 911 on 77 WABC Radio this is why I ask if you are from NYC?

[JesseShurun]

well, being one of the Immortals, I get around, usually in a little deuce coupe

[Alex Murphy]

I'm sorry, but your intellect is obviously so far above mine, that I still don't get the point of your rant.

I get told that a lot. I always take it for a compliment - thanks!

[Elsie]

Can you show me where the bible defines triune God? What definition of triune God are you basing this on?

Would BIune be good enough?