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Where Have All the FR Protestants Gone?
drstevej

Posted on 04/08/2003 10:29:25 AM PDT by drstevej

OBSERVATIONS:

[1] There seems to be a significantly reduced number of Protestant Threads (KJV Only being the exception for sure) in the FR Religion Forum.

[2] There seems to be a reduced number of FR Protestant posts in the Religion Forum.

This thread is a place to discuss these observations.


TOPICS: General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: catholiclist
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To: Illbay; Corin Stormhands; drstevej; Wrigley; Alex Murphy; ksen; Jim Robinson; JesseShurun
How is a Jew that disdains Jesus Christ and refuses to acknowledge His Messiahship, "Chosen" exactly? Illbay last week

I have NEVER bashed Judaism, ever. Illbay this week

LOL

341 posted on 04/09/2003 7:42:48 AM PDT by Revelation 911 (Silencing of the Lambs (HHD, FRM, RFA)
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To: al_c
Hey .. we still talk religion (between Final Four, Baseball, Hockey and NBA talks) ;o)

Ahhh an honest man . The fact is that thread is more about vacations and jokes and sports and gifs than religious discussion and as such it is really a general thread. But hey you guys pay to play so I guess house rules say you can name it anything you want

Oh there's definitely some ugliness in my church's history (and in most others as well), I won't deny that. I do think they honestly believed they were indeed defending doctrine.

Al you and I have been friends a long time I figured you understood what I meant even if "Conservative" didn't. That was not a "slap" at the Catholic Church ..it was just a point.. There was a time when it was expected that men not only go to church on Sunday ..but that they defend their faith strongly. Today the general belief seems to be we need to go to go to the Rodney King school of theology "Cant we all just get along" Well if that is the purpose iof the religion forum her JR should close it down.There are a million RC forums out there..almost as many Mormon ones and alot of Protestand ones..

That way every group can find their own kind and all agree together that they are right and the rest are wrong and pat themselves on the back while they do it.

What MADE FR different was it allow the right of freedom of religion to play out ..and allowed people with different beliefs to engage in apologitics . But Rodney King has won and Luther and Erasmus have to go else where..Theyu just were not polite enough to post here

342 posted on 04/09/2003 7:48:42 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord; RnMomof7
You're proving JR's point about bashing. You're proving my point that there is something going on with Protestants on a deep-down level that they cannot discuss religion without bashing Catholics.

Let's see, a you are drawing a conclusion from a sample of .... one poster. Kind of limited wouldn't you say?

....No, her post was PROVING my point. My conclusion is based on a couple years of observation of the religious threads. Her post is just one more example. Feel free to disagree, but this is how I see it and nothing you say is really going to convince me otherwise.

If the Catholic Church didn't exist, would you have anything to talk about?

You know aside from Mom, i haven't seen anyone talking about the Catholic Church. In point of fact, some of us have included the Catholics as a group being oppressed by this recent trend. It isn't that long a thread, look up the posts yourself. FYI, we have been generally refering to Mormons, not Catholics.


...I'm not referring to just this thread. This thread is about the religion forums in general, and this is what I am referring to. It's completely relevant to discuss behavior on other threads. If you and a few other kind souls feel that the Catholics are 'persecuted' on the religion threads, thanks for your honesty. But you and the few others that are admitting this are also not the ones on the threads everyday bashing us. What I'm saying is, you're not the problem. It's people like rnmomof7 and quite a few others who I will not name for etiquette's sake who constantly bash and don't see a problem with it. That's really who I'm responding to and about.
343 posted on 04/09/2003 7:49:27 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: SoothingDave
I prefer to think of it as the "de-compartmentalization" of our respective faiths. We share and speak as friends, despite our differences. Should religious people only talk about religion?

That is my point ..it is a fellowship (general) thread and as such NOT a religion thread..hey but those that pay get to call the tune..dance on!

If it's not your cup of tea, there are points of egress available.

Note the name of the thread..

344 posted on 04/09/2003 7:52:25 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Illbay; Corin Stormhands; Admin Moderator
note to mod - #259 was deleted - this is that in edited form - presumably it is satisfactory now

I will not stand by and see my religion slandered and lied about.

You have a limited right of free speech, but when you lie and slander, be prepared for return fire.

its a "lie" in your own opinion. Ive posted geneaological information from the LDS website itself regarding the documented age of Joseph Smiths 14 yr old bride - and you still ignored it because it didnt fit into your paradigm - consequently some whiner hit the button and that info disappeared.

Ive posted Congressional Historical testimony from Maj Carleton regarding Mountain Meadow - AND CONGRESSIONAL TESTIMONY GOT DELETED - that isnt free speech - That isnt a free republic.

Those werent lies

But in your mind, anything that is not sourced from Deseret news or the LDS site is a heresy

Thats mormon censorship

Point us & JR towards the lies

or clam up......because you are anything but a victim on these threads

345 posted on 04/09/2003 7:53:40 AM PDT by Revelation 911 (Silencing of the Lambs (HHD, FRM, RFA)
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To: Onelifetogive
In that case...I have never seen a religion thread!

Well I guess if you worship baslketball and motorcycles ..hey every man has a right to worship his own god

346 posted on 04/09/2003 7:55:27 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord
Don't attempt to smear the rest of us on a limited sample

I don't feel I'm smearing anyone. I'm making an observation which could be all correct, partially correct, mostly incorrect, or completely incorrect. We're not discussing if 2+2 = 4 or if the sky is blue. These are matters of opinion. Unfortunately, there is a rather loud majority of religiously-inclined Protestants on FR that feel it's their mission in life to piss on ("piss on" being my term for people who basically hijack a thread and change it's topic by provoking others) any Catholic thread with strawmen and prostelytization, even when the thread topic has nothing to do with anything a Protestant would be interested in.

Sorry if you feel that you're being put in the same bag as some of the bigots, but rather than be angry at me, maybe you should reserve a smidgen of anger for your fellow Protestants that wind up making the rest of you look bad via their actions and words? Because honestly, before I came on FR, I was blissfully unaware of the beliefs and attitudes that Protestants hold towards Catholics. The reason I think that a lot of Protestants on FR are bigots is because they're acting like bigots, not because I'm paranoid or hallucinating.

347 posted on 04/09/2003 7:55:34 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Conservative til I die; RnMomof7
not because I'm paranoid or hallucinating.

Thats not to say there is no impact

348 posted on 04/09/2003 7:58:04 AM PDT by Revelation 911 (Silencing of the Lambs (HHD, FRM, RFA)
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To: Illbay
still waiting for you to direct us all towards the lies - surely some posts remain

still waiting

349 posted on 04/09/2003 7:59:17 AM PDT by Revelation 911 (Silencing of the Lambs (HHD, FRM, RFA)
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To: Conservative til I die
You need to post here so your feelings are not hurt and you will never have to be challanged to THINK about WHY you believe as you do

http://www.catholic-jhb.org.za/Resources/fourms.htm
350 posted on 04/09/2003 7:59:22 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Well if that is the purpose iof the religion forum her JR should close it down.There are a million RC forums out there..almost as many Mormon ones and alot of Protestand ones.. That way every group can find their own kind and all agree together that they are right and the rest are wrong and pat themselves on the back while they do it.

On the Neverending thread there are Catholics and Baptists and a Jew and many other different types of Christians.

We are not segregated. If I only went to a Cahtolic forum, to pat myself on the back, I would not have learned the things I did from the Baptists and others.

The Thread is exactly the point of a civil discussion. We don't need to be constantly at each others' throats. We got our mutual anathemas out of the way. Maybe you think that one should only associate with those one agrees with, but I do not.

But taking each day to remind (for example) my Baptist friends that they are going to hell if they don't go to Mass is not constructive.

Still, still, still you catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

I believe that part of living a Christ-like life is finding the Christ inside of everyone you meet.

SD

351 posted on 04/09/2003 8:01:35 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: restornu
Oh Rev! your true colors are showing

colors trump white stripes any day - keep hitting the button LOL

352 posted on 04/09/2003 8:02:14 AM PDT by Revelation 911 (Silencing of the Lambs (HHD, FRM, RFA)
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To: sandyeggo
Yeah, I'm gonna try some other fonts because that's the second complaint I got in the last two weeks. Honestly, I always thought it was posting in CAPS that was considered shouting.
353 posted on 04/09/2003 8:02:17 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: RnMomof7
You need to post here so your feelings are not hurt and you will never have to be challanged to THINK about WHY you believe as you do

exactly - heaven forbid we probe and test our faith in Christ

354 posted on 04/09/2003 8:05:34 AM PDT by Revelation 911 (Silencing of the Lambs (HHD, FRM, RFA)
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To: Conservative til I die
I don't feel I'm smearing anyone....Unfortunately, there is a rather loud majority of religiously-inclined Protestants on FR that feel it's their mission in life to...(hijack a thread and change it's topic by provoking others)...any Catholic thread with strawmen and prostelytization, even when the thread topic has nothing to do with anything a Protestant would be interested in.

Sorry if you feel that you're being put in the same bag as some of the bigots, but rather than be angry at me, maybe you should reserve a smidgen of anger for your fellow Protestants that wind up making the rest of you look bad via their actions and words? Because honestly, before I came on FR, I was blissfully unaware of the beliefs and attitudes that Protestants hold towards Catholics. The reason I think that a lot of Protestants on FR are bigots is because they're acting like bigots, not because I'm paranoid or hallucinating.

Heads' up, everyone. It's not "bashing" or "smearing" anyone, if you claim you're not making offensive epithets but just "making an observation".

355 posted on 04/09/2003 8:06:46 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Athanasius contra mundum!)
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To: Corin Stormhands
Oh get over it. You walked in here with a chip on your shoulder.

As opposed to you, making demands to Jim about how he run his forum? Here's a clue, the site isn't called FreeProtestantRepublic.com
356 posted on 04/09/2003 8:08:17 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: RnMomof7
Ahhh an honest man .

I try. :o)

Al you and I have been friends a long time I figured you understood what I meant even if "Conservative" didn't. That was not a "slap" at the Catholic Church ..it was just a point..

Understood ... I didn't take it as such.

There was a time when it was expected that men not only go to church on Sunday ..but that they defend their faith strongly.

I agree wholeheartedly. But I think faith generally can be defended civily. Like you said, we've been friends a long time (in fact, if I remember correctly, you were my first debate on FR) so you know I will gladly engage in a debate with people of other faiths provided they (and I) can keep our cool and not lash out at others. Once the lashing out starts, the debate is no longer a debate but more like a contest to see who can point out the worst of each other's church. That's not constructive and only increases the angst between faiths.

357 posted on 04/09/2003 8:11:33 AM PDT by al_c
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To: Conservative til I die; Corin Stormhands
...and youre lumping all prots into the same category why ?

Look, its us getting censored this month - dont think for a minute you guys arent next

...and when your here, alone - cry on restornu's assinine animated gifs....and dont say we didnt warn you.

358 posted on 04/09/2003 8:12:04 AM PDT by Revelation 911 (Silencing of the Lambs (HHD, FRM, RFA)
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To: Conservative til I die; Alex Murphy
As opposed to you, making demands to Jim about how he run his forum?

I demanded nothing. I was merely "making an observation."

359 posted on 04/09/2003 8:13:15 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD, FRM, RFA)
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To: restornu
I loved your picture.
360 posted on 04/09/2003 8:14:25 AM PDT by Delphinium
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