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To: Quester
Reverse your post, because you can have faith and not the works. That is why James said that faith without works is dead, and that he would show you his faith BY HIS WORKS. If you DO THE WORKS the faith is there with it. You can have faith and not do the works, leaving it empty.

In other words. Through your works your faith will shine through.

I have to leave for a while but will be back later.

186 posted on 04/01/2003 11:15:48 AM PST by ET(end tyranny) (Heavenly Father, please embrace, and protect, our Pres., our troops and those of our true allies.)
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To: ET(end tyranny)
It is not quite reversible.

We must not neglect to acknowledge the order in which faith and works occur.

Faith in God produces godly works.

First faith ... then works.

James says that works are the evidence of a viable faith.

OTOH, ... nowhere does James claim that godly works will produce justifying faith.

Indeed, without faith ... it is impossible to do good works (works pleasing to God).

It is in this way that faith and works go hand in hand.
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: (no works here)

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. (or here)

10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, (ah, ... here they are) which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
IOW, we are saved ... by God's grace ... through our faith (belief in Him) ... not by works ... but rather, so that we may do the good works ... which God wills that we do.

194 posted on 04/01/2003 12:03:19 PM PST by Quester
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