[Wingy]

No flames please, but I would appreciate all your comments.

[gcruse]

No flames? I guess we should be grateful you didn't post this non-news in breaking.

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

http://www.biblecodedigest.com/
they have some info at above URL

[AmericaUnited]

They have been disproved.

Code Breaker

Closing the Bible Codes

[BibChr]

Absolute total hokum. Less scientific than astrology. I urge you, waste no time on it. The Bible is revelation — un-veiling — not mystical code.

Want to read something that WILL help you understand the Bible, for free? Read THIS:

Help for Bible Students

...and THIS:

The Science of Bible Reading

Dan

[Born to Conserve]

Yes, there is definitely "something to it". And there are definitely clouds that look like rabbits.

[mrsmith]

Here's a bunch of threads on it:

FR RELIGION

They're in the 'religion' section.

[Physicist]

Now there is a sequel, "The Bible Code II" that begins on the morning of 9-11-01.

It would have been more helpful had the events of 9-11-01 been described in the first book. To my knowledge, not a single psychic, astrologer, tea leaf reader, phrenologist, Bible-coder or other soothsayer saw that one coming. What does that tell you?

[Woahhs]

www.michaelsheiser.com

[DainBramage]

I saw on the news last week that it was snowing in Israel.

If it gets code now, it got code back then. JMHO

[Alouette]

Torah Code CD-ROM

[CindyDawg]

Don't you know you can't talk about God on the news forum? You have probably had the abuse button pushed a dozen times while I type this and will be bannished to the "religious ghetto" before I hit post.

I haven't read the book but I believe I saw the author on Fox. He sat there and talked about all these predictions and how awesome it was, and then stated he didn't believe in God. Seemed to contradict himself. I muted him.

[NewMexLurker]

I urge you not to waste any more of your time or money on this. Any large source of text, be it the Holy Bible or "War and Peace", can be made to spit out any desired word or phrase by using these "bible code" rules. It is just a scam to get your money. The fact that they use the Bible as part of this scheme is especially shameful.

[Stone Mountain]

It's bogus. Get a long enough string of characters and arrange them in different ways, and of course you will get words appearing. Particularly when you don't have to wory about vowels as in the analysis done for TBC.

[Belial]

I notice people always attribute predictions to Nostradamus or the Bible after they've occurred. A theory like this could gain some credibility by actually making predictions in advance.

[Stay the course]

Assassinations Foretold in Moby Dick

[Lee Enfield]

Moby Dick code http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugim/moby.html

[cookcounty]

It's Baloney. Here's a quick reason why.

The Bible codes are based on the HEBREW text. In the hebrew, there are no vowels, and in the "computerized" text used for these "Bible Code" books, no spaces between words. Vowels are "understood" based on context.

So, you could have something like "GDDY" That might mean "good day" or it might mean "gay day", or it might mean "God did you" or "Go dude, yeah." Then they read the "tables" backwards (both left to right or right to left), or top to bottom or bottom to top----or diagonally.. You get the point. You can find almost anything in these tables.

[lafroste]

I am unfamiliar with the code you reference, and judging from the responses so far, I'd say I'm not missing much. That said, my sister made a fascinating discovery (?) regarding a Biblical "code" that I will admit has me very intrigued. The entire theory is somewhat longwinded and is composed primarily of noticing a pattern of symetries in Man's history.

In short, her theory is that modern history is ancient history running backwards along a defined timeline. Some of these features include:
Creation: ~4004 - 4006 BC (I know, I know, but lets not get sidetracked just yet - and I think there is a simple explanation anyway)
History's inflection point (ie. where it begins running oppositely in a mirror of what has come before): ~500 BC

Then one can pair events on either side of the inflection point, thusly:
Birth of Isiah: ~ 1000 BC ----- Birth of Christ ~ 0 AD
Great Flood (Noah): ~1800 BC ----- Black Plague ~1350 AD
She had dozens (maybe hundreds) of other examples. She also hypothesized that human history also mirrored the personal history of Abraham wherein 1 year of Abraham's life equaled 40 years of human history (Abraham lived to be 175, and had his son Isaac via a miracle at age 100; mankind had Christ via a miracle at age 100 x 40 = 4,000 years). Wheels within wheels indeed.

As an interesting sidelight, if you render the Holy words in the Bible (in Hebrew) and assign them a simple numeric value (A=1, B=2, etc.) and add them up, then take the result and render it in binary code, they are all palindromes (identical forward and backwards). If you take the number of the beast, 666 and render it into binary, you get an anti-palindrome (exactly opposite forwards and backwards). She finally dismissed this curiosity as evidence of a divine sense of humor.

Anyway, I found it intriguing.

[Thinkin' Gal]

Well, you could start by analyzing the Alef-Beit significances in NT passages, say Mark 10:17-27.

The rich man chasing after the poor man to give him charity is the gimel (rich man, camel) following the dalet (poor man, door). The eye of the needle is the letter kuf, which the gimel is never proceeded by, whereas the gimel often follows the dalet, both in language structure and alefbeitical order. The tav is the cross, which is also the kingdom of God.

http://www.inner.org/hebleter/HEBLETRS.HTM

The race of the gimel (rich man) to get to the dalet (door, poor man) in order to reach the tav (cross) is right there in the text.


Mark 10:21 Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.

And...


Mark 10:25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

So you see, the goal here is to finish the race:


Hebrews 12:1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,

Hebrews 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Alef to Tav, or in the Greek, Alpha and Omega:

Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Revelation 1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

Revelation 21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

Revelation 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

Beginning = Gen 1
End = Rev 22

Hebrew letter order

1 = alef
22 = tav

Etc.

[templar]

Don't think of it as anything but fiction. I have one of those bible code programs on my computer. I can get anything I want out of it. Bet I could do the same with War and Peace if I wanted to.