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Failed Prophecies of Joseph Smith
Institute for Religious Studies ^

Posted on 02/03/2003 6:49:48 PM PST by A.J.Armitage

Joseph Smith bore many titles in his lifetime, Elder, Seer, President, Mayor, even Lieutenant General, but he is probably best known as the Prophet. And prophesy he did, often with great passion, invoking the powers of heaven and the name of God. What follows are seven prophecies of Joseph Smith, notable for their specificity and appeal to divine authority. These are taken from official Mormon sources — either the Latter-day Saint scriptures or the History of the Church (HC), a seven volume history published under the authority of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormon). Each are given in context and cited directly from the original source. Where they are known, subsequent historical events relevant to the prophecy are noted.

Prophecy # 1 — The Coming of the Lord

President Smith then stated that the meeting had been called, because God had commanded it; and it was made known to him by vision and by the Holy Spirit. . . . it was the will of God that they should be ordained to the ministry and go forth to prune the vineyard for the last time, for the coming of the Lord, which was nigh — even fifty six years should wind up the scene. (History of the Church, Vol. 2, page 182).

This prophecy was spoken by Joseph Smith in 1835, and recorded by Oliver Cowdery. The fifty-six years were passed by 1891.

Prophecy # 2 — David W. Patten to go on a mission

Verily, thus saith the Lord: It is wisdom in my servant David W. Patten, that he settle up all his business as soon as he possibly can, and make a disposition of his merchandise, that he may perform a mission unto me next spring, in company with others, even twelve including himself, to testify of my name and bear glad tidings unto the world. (Doctrine & Covenants 114:1)

This prophecy was made on April 17, 1838. David W. Patten died in October of 1838 and thus never went on a mission the following spring.

Prophecy # 3 — The United States Government
to be overthrown in a few years

I prophecy in the name of the Lord God of Israel, unless the United States redress the wrongs committed upon the Saints in the state of Missouri and punish the crimes committed by her officers that in a few years the government will be utterly overthrown and wasted, and there will not be so much as a potsherd left for their wickedness in permitting the murder of men, women and children, and the wholesale plunder and extermination of thousands of her citizens to go unpunished (History of the Church, Vol. 5, page 394).

Joseph Smith made this prophecy in May 6, 1843. However, the United States Government did not redress any of the wrongs committed against the Mormons in Missouri, and now over 150 years later, the U.S. Government still stands.

Prophecy # 4 — Congress to be broken up as a government

While discussing the petition to Congress, I prophesied, by virtue of the holy Priesthood vested in me, and in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, that, if Congress will not hear our petition and grant us protection, they shall be broken up as a government, and God shall damn them, and there shall be nothing left of them — not even a grease spot. (Millennial Star, Vol. 22, p. 455. See also History of the Church (HC), vol. 6, p. 116, though when this prediction was incorporated into the official history, Mormon Church leaders decided to leave out the "grease spot" part.)

The petition was not heard nor was protection granted (Deseret News, Vol. 1, p. 59). Yet, Congress was never broken up and continues to function to this day. It is interesting that the compilers of History of the Church, added an editorial note in an attempt to soften or explain this prophecy. They state that: "This prediction doubtless has reference to the party in power; to the ‘government’ considered as the administration;" (note, p. 116). According to the note in HC, this means the Democratic Party, which was in control at the time. However, the prediction is that "Congress shall be broken up as a government" and Congress is made up of representatives from both parties. The Saints were making an appeal to the General Government, not to the Democratic Party, a point made by a summary statement in the left margin beside this prophecy as it is recorded in HC.

Prophecy #5 —Finding Treasure in Salem, Massachusetts

This prophecy is recorded in Doctrine & Covenants Section 111. The introduction to this prophecy, found at the beginning of Section 111 states:

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Salem, Massachusetts, August 6, 1836. HC 2:465-466. At this time the leaders of the [LDS] Church were heavily in debt due to their labors in the ministry.

1. I, the Lord your God, am not displeased with your coming this journey, notwithstanding your follies.

2. I have much treasure in this city for you, for the benefit of Zion, and many people in this city, whom I will gather out in due time for the benefit of Zion, through your instrumentality.

3. Therefore, it is expedient that you should form acquaintance with men in this city, as you shall be led, and as it shall be given you.

4. And it shall come to pass in due time that I will give this city into your hands, that you shall have power over it, insomuch that they shall not discover your secret parts; and its wealth pertaining to gold and silver shall be yours.

5. Concern not yourselves about your debts, for I will give you power to pay them.

No treasure was ever discovered, nor did Salem ever fell into the hands of the Mormons.

Prophecy #6 — Pestilence, Hail, Famine & Earthquake
to Destroy the Wicked

And now I am prepared to say by the authority of Jesus Christ, that not many years shall pass away before the United States shall present such a scene of bloodshed as has not a parallel in the history of our nation; pestilence, hail, famine, and earthquake will sweep the wicked of this generation from off the face of the land, to open and prepare the way for the return of the lost tribes of Israel from the north country. The people of the Lord, those who have complied with the requirements of the new covenant, have already commenced gathering together to Zion, which is in the state of Missouri; therefore I declare unto you the warning which the Lord has commanded to declare unto this generation, remembering that the eyes of my Maker are upon me, and that to him I am accountable for every word I say, wishing nothing worse to my fellow-men than their eternal salvation; therefore, "Fear God, and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment is come." Repent ye, repent ye, and embrace the everlasting covenant and flee to Zion, before the overflowing scourge overtake you, for there are those now living upon the earth whose eyes shall not be closed in death until they see all these things, which I have spoken, fulfilled (History of the Church, Vol. 1, pp. 315-316).

Such a widespread destruction of the wicked of that generation never occurred.

Prophecy # 7 — Temple to be Built in Zion, Missouri

This prophecy comes directly from Doctrine & Covenants Section 84, the introduction of which states:

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Kirtland, Ohio, September 22 and 23, 1832. HC 1:286-295.

1. A revelation of Jesus Christ unto his servant Joseph Smith, Jun., and six elders, as they united their hearts and lifted their voices on high.

2. Yea, the word of the Lord concerning his church, established in the last days for the restoration of his people, as he has spoken by the mouth of his prophets, and for the gathering of his saints to stand upon Mount Zion, which shall be the city of New Jerusalem.

3. Which city shall be built, beginning at the temple lot, which is appointed by the finger of the Lord, in the western boundaries of the State of Missouri, and dedicated by the hand of Joseph Smith, Jun., and others with whom the Lord was well pleased.

4. Verily, this is the word of the Lord, that the city New Jerusalem shall be built by the gathering of the saints, beginning at this place, even the place of the temple, which temple shall be reared in this generation.

5. For verily this generation shall not all pass away until an house shall be built unto the Lord, and a cloud shall rest upon it, which cloud shall be even the glory of the Lord, which shall fill the house.

The Mormons were forced to flee Missouri due to persecution and a temple was never built on the "temple lot" in the lifetime of Joseph Smith or within the generation of his contemporaries.

Testing Prophetic Claims

Over the last 200 years a number of people have claimed to be religious prophets with special spiritual authority from God. These include Charles Taze Russell (Jehovah’s Witnesses), Ellen G. White (Seventh-day Adventists), Mary Baker Eddy (Christian Science), and Joseph Smith (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints). Each started an organization which claimed to be the one true Christian Church, each had unique teachings, and each appealed to the Bible to some degree as their basis for spiritual authority. Yet, each "prophet’s" teachings contradict those of the others.

How can we test a person like Joseph Smith who claims to be a prophet?

Jesus warned in Matthew 7:15 that many false prophets would come, and several other places warn us about false prophets and spiritual deception (2 Corinthians 11:4-15; Galatians 1:6-9; 1 Timothy 4:1; 2 Peter 2:1-3; 1 John 4:1 and Jude 3-16). We should not be surprised, therefore, to discover that there are false prophets in the world today.

A specific biblical test. The Bible, in Deuteronomy chapters 13 and 18, provides 2 tests for anyone claiming to be a prophet and speak for God. If the person fails either test given by God, then we can know for sure they are a false prophet and we are to reject their teaching. Here we will focus on the test found in Deuteronomy 18:21-22 which reads as follows:

And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

Here the God of Israel tells his people how they can keep from being deceived by someone claiming to be a prophet — if even one of the prophet’s prophecies do not come true he is a false prophet. What was the punishment if a prophet did speak a false prophecy? According to verse 20 the prophet was to die. So God takes the area of false prophecy very seriously.

Joseph Smith's false prophecies in the name of the Lord constitute one of the single greatest objections to his claim to be a latter-day prophet of God.


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To: restornu
But only the LDS were able to exterminate a group of innocent people.
161 posted on 02/11/2003 9:27:41 AM PST by Wrigley
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To: Wrigley
No it was John Lee who relied on the ARM of Man, instead of the ARM of God!
162 posted on 02/11/2003 10:11:06 AM PST by restornu
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To: restornu
John Lee was LDS. The group that murdered the innocent were LDS.
163 posted on 02/11/2003 10:14:12 AM PST by Wrigley
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To: Wrigley
Spin it anyway you want Heavely Father knows what really happen, even more than you!
164 posted on 02/11/2003 10:39:33 AM PST by restornu
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To: restornu
Spin? LOL. You're the one spinning.

A spin would be this.

Before the massacre of innocents, John Lee was LDS.
During the massacre of innocents, John Lee was not LDS.
After the massacre of innocents, John Lee was LDS.

That rest is spin.
165 posted on 02/11/2003 10:41:45 AM PST by Wrigley
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To: Wrigley
Do you take personal responability for any crime commited by a member of your church Wrigley?

Does your church take responability if a member or a group of members commit a crime?
166 posted on 02/11/2003 5:34:57 PM PST by rising tide
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To: rising tide
Of course not in normal situations.

But that would depend on if the church hierarchy knew about a crime and didn't do anything to stop it. Or even if it approved of the actions.

I think your missing the point though.

rest has been trying to say that there were no LDS involved in the MMM.
167 posted on 02/12/2003 4:43:55 AM PST by Wrigley
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To: OWK
So you were a Mormon, eh ...

Better a hypocrite than a demon-spawn.

Glad you made the right choice.

As St. Thomas says ... upon a true dispute of conscience, it's better to leave the Church than remain in the Church a hypocrite.

'Course, he's talking about the Catholic Church.

(Here's to you and the rest on the 3rd decade ... ever hopeful. =)

168 posted on 03/08/2003 9:32:51 PM PST by Askel5
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To: A.J.Armitage
Do you fear Joseph Smith, or do you obey God? You can't do both.

Very interesting thread, AJ ... save for all the really inane posturing and damning to hell of others. How Christian.

Your comment reminds me of one of my favorite bumperstickers down here: "You cannot be Catholic AND Pro-Choice"

169 posted on 03/08/2003 9:34:30 PM PST by Askel5
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To: A.J.Armitage
Do you fear Joseph Smith, or do you obey God?

None of the above.

170 posted on 03/10/2003 6:20:12 AM PST by OWK
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To: OWK
Well, I was addressing Mormons.
171 posted on 03/10/2003 12:40:18 PM PST by A.J.Armitage (Christ died for the ungodly.)
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To: All
bump
172 posted on 04/01/2003 5:20:43 AM PST by peeve23
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To: peeve23
Welcome to FreeRepublic peeve23 signed up 2003-03-24.
173 posted on 04/01/2003 5:37:42 AM PST by restornu (An obstacle is something you see when you take your eyes off the goal)
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To: restornu
Doggy thoughts...........

"Gee: what's a BoM doing in my water bowl?"

174 posted on 04/17/2003 11:41:23 AM PDT by Elsie (Don't believe every prophecy you read - ESPECIALLY *** ones)
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If you don't heed the prophet's words, you will not obey God, my friend. And you will suffer for it if it is willful.


And just what IS required to Obey GOD?


1 John 3:18-24
 18.  Dear children, let us not love with words or tongue but with actions and in truth.
 19.  This then is how we know that we belong to the truth, and how we set our hearts at rest in his presence
 20.  whenever our hearts condemn us. For God is greater than our hearts, and he knows everything.
 21.  Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God
 22.  and receive from him anything we ask, because we obey his commands and do what pleases him.
 23.  And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us.
 24.  Those who obey his commands live in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us.

Any more than these two you'll be hard pressed to show from the Scriptures.

175 posted on 04/17/2003 11:46:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Don't believe every prophecy you read - ESPECIALLY *** ones)
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To: gcruse
Please correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Jesus say there were those around him who would not taste death before the Kingdom came? If that is true, why was he not also a false prophet?

Well... let's just read the Scriptures about this; shall we?
 
NIV Matthew 16:28
 28.  I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before
they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom."
 
NIV Mark 9:1
 1.  And he said to them, "I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before
they see the kingdom of God come with power."
 
NIV Luke 9:27
 27.  I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before
they see the kingdom of God."
 
These three Gospel writers report the same incident, using just slight variations in the wording........
 

 
NIV John 8:51-53
 51.  I tell you the truth, if anyone keeps my word, he will never see death."
 52.  At this the Jews exclaimed, "Now we know that you are demon-possessed! Abraham died and so did the prophets, yet you say that if anyone keeps your word, he will never taste death.
 53.  Are you greater than our father Abraham? He died, and so did the prophets. Who do you think you are?"
 
 
NIV Hebrews 2:9
 9.  But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone.
 
 John 21:20-24
 20.  Peter turned and saw that the disciple whom Jesus loved was following them. (This was the one who had leaned back against Jesus at the supper and had said, "Lord, who is going to betray you?")
 21.  When Peter saw him, he asked, "Lord, what about him?"
 22.  Jesus answered, "If I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you? You must follow me."
 23.  Because of this, the rumor spread among the brothers that this disciple would not die. But Jesus did not say that he would not die; he only said, "If  I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you?"
 24.  This is the disciple who testifies to these things and who wrote them down. We know that his testimony is true.
 
 
These verses contain a bit more info on 'tasting death' and 'dying'.
 



176 posted on 04/17/2003 12:01:53 PM PDT by Elsie (Don't believe every prophecy you read - ESPECIALLY *** ones)
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To: Elsie
Also, immediately after Jesus statement He takes Peter, James and John up on the Mount opf Transfiguration which many biblical scholars describe as a type of the Kingdom.

Thus SOME (and only some) of them did get a preview of the Kingdom prior to death.

177 posted on 04/17/2003 12:07:41 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: A.J.Armitage; restornu
Joe Smith was a false prophet. That's an absolute, Biblical fact.

Yup; there is NO denying THIS!

Unless there is some part of BRAIN missing!

179 posted on 05/01/2011 6:26:06 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
(BTW the rest of the Prophecie was omitted)

If one finds a FLY in the punch bowl; it makes no sense to comment on the rest of the foods on the table.

180 posted on 05/01/2011 6:28:31 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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