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Failed Prophecies of Joseph Smith
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Posted on 02/03/2003 6:49:48 PM PST by A.J.Armitage

Joseph Smith bore many titles in his lifetime, Elder, Seer, President, Mayor, even Lieutenant General, but he is probably best known as the Prophet. And prophesy he did, often with great passion, invoking the powers of heaven and the name of God. What follows are seven prophecies of Joseph Smith, notable for their specificity and appeal to divine authority. These are taken from official Mormon sources — either the Latter-day Saint scriptures or the History of the Church (HC), a seven volume history published under the authority of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormon). Each are given in context and cited directly from the original source. Where they are known, subsequent historical events relevant to the prophecy are noted.

Prophecy # 1 — The Coming of the Lord

President Smith then stated that the meeting had been called, because God had commanded it; and it was made known to him by vision and by the Holy Spirit. . . . it was the will of God that they should be ordained to the ministry and go forth to prune the vineyard for the last time, for the coming of the Lord, which was nigh — even fifty six years should wind up the scene. (History of the Church, Vol. 2, page 182).

This prophecy was spoken by Joseph Smith in 1835, and recorded by Oliver Cowdery. The fifty-six years were passed by 1891.

Prophecy # 2 — David W. Patten to go on a mission

Verily, thus saith the Lord: It is wisdom in my servant David W. Patten, that he settle up all his business as soon as he possibly can, and make a disposition of his merchandise, that he may perform a mission unto me next spring, in company with others, even twelve including himself, to testify of my name and bear glad tidings unto the world. (Doctrine & Covenants 114:1)

This prophecy was made on April 17, 1838. David W. Patten died in October of 1838 and thus never went on a mission the following spring.

Prophecy # 3 — The United States Government
to be overthrown in a few years

I prophecy in the name of the Lord God of Israel, unless the United States redress the wrongs committed upon the Saints in the state of Missouri and punish the crimes committed by her officers that in a few years the government will be utterly overthrown and wasted, and there will not be so much as a potsherd left for their wickedness in permitting the murder of men, women and children, and the wholesale plunder and extermination of thousands of her citizens to go unpunished (History of the Church, Vol. 5, page 394).

Joseph Smith made this prophecy in May 6, 1843. However, the United States Government did not redress any of the wrongs committed against the Mormons in Missouri, and now over 150 years later, the U.S. Government still stands.

Prophecy # 4 — Congress to be broken up as a government

While discussing the petition to Congress, I prophesied, by virtue of the holy Priesthood vested in me, and in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, that, if Congress will not hear our petition and grant us protection, they shall be broken up as a government, and God shall damn them, and there shall be nothing left of them — not even a grease spot. (Millennial Star, Vol. 22, p. 455. See also History of the Church (HC), vol. 6, p. 116, though when this prediction was incorporated into the official history, Mormon Church leaders decided to leave out the "grease spot" part.)

The petition was not heard nor was protection granted (Deseret News, Vol. 1, p. 59). Yet, Congress was never broken up and continues to function to this day. It is interesting that the compilers of History of the Church, added an editorial note in an attempt to soften or explain this prophecy. They state that: "This prediction doubtless has reference to the party in power; to the ‘government’ considered as the administration;" (note, p. 116). According to the note in HC, this means the Democratic Party, which was in control at the time. However, the prediction is that "Congress shall be broken up as a government" and Congress is made up of representatives from both parties. The Saints were making an appeal to the General Government, not to the Democratic Party, a point made by a summary statement in the left margin beside this prophecy as it is recorded in HC.

Prophecy #5 —Finding Treasure in Salem, Massachusetts

This prophecy is recorded in Doctrine & Covenants Section 111. The introduction to this prophecy, found at the beginning of Section 111 states:

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Salem, Massachusetts, August 6, 1836. HC 2:465-466. At this time the leaders of the [LDS] Church were heavily in debt due to their labors in the ministry.

1. I, the Lord your God, am not displeased with your coming this journey, notwithstanding your follies.

2. I have much treasure in this city for you, for the benefit of Zion, and many people in this city, whom I will gather out in due time for the benefit of Zion, through your instrumentality.

3. Therefore, it is expedient that you should form acquaintance with men in this city, as you shall be led, and as it shall be given you.

4. And it shall come to pass in due time that I will give this city into your hands, that you shall have power over it, insomuch that they shall not discover your secret parts; and its wealth pertaining to gold and silver shall be yours.

5. Concern not yourselves about your debts, for I will give you power to pay them.

No treasure was ever discovered, nor did Salem ever fell into the hands of the Mormons.

Prophecy #6 — Pestilence, Hail, Famine & Earthquake
to Destroy the Wicked

And now I am prepared to say by the authority of Jesus Christ, that not many years shall pass away before the United States shall present such a scene of bloodshed as has not a parallel in the history of our nation; pestilence, hail, famine, and earthquake will sweep the wicked of this generation from off the face of the land, to open and prepare the way for the return of the lost tribes of Israel from the north country. The people of the Lord, those who have complied with the requirements of the new covenant, have already commenced gathering together to Zion, which is in the state of Missouri; therefore I declare unto you the warning which the Lord has commanded to declare unto this generation, remembering that the eyes of my Maker are upon me, and that to him I am accountable for every word I say, wishing nothing worse to my fellow-men than their eternal salvation; therefore, "Fear God, and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment is come." Repent ye, repent ye, and embrace the everlasting covenant and flee to Zion, before the overflowing scourge overtake you, for there are those now living upon the earth whose eyes shall not be closed in death until they see all these things, which I have spoken, fulfilled (History of the Church, Vol. 1, pp. 315-316).

Such a widespread destruction of the wicked of that generation never occurred.

Prophecy # 7 — Temple to be Built in Zion, Missouri

This prophecy comes directly from Doctrine & Covenants Section 84, the introduction of which states:

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Kirtland, Ohio, September 22 and 23, 1832. HC 1:286-295.

1. A revelation of Jesus Christ unto his servant Joseph Smith, Jun., and six elders, as they united their hearts and lifted their voices on high.

2. Yea, the word of the Lord concerning his church, established in the last days for the restoration of his people, as he has spoken by the mouth of his prophets, and for the gathering of his saints to stand upon Mount Zion, which shall be the city of New Jerusalem.

3. Which city shall be built, beginning at the temple lot, which is appointed by the finger of the Lord, in the western boundaries of the State of Missouri, and dedicated by the hand of Joseph Smith, Jun., and others with whom the Lord was well pleased.

4. Verily, this is the word of the Lord, that the city New Jerusalem shall be built by the gathering of the saints, beginning at this place, even the place of the temple, which temple shall be reared in this generation.

5. For verily this generation shall not all pass away until an house shall be built unto the Lord, and a cloud shall rest upon it, which cloud shall be even the glory of the Lord, which shall fill the house.

The Mormons were forced to flee Missouri due to persecution and a temple was never built on the "temple lot" in the lifetime of Joseph Smith or within the generation of his contemporaries.

Testing Prophetic Claims

Over the last 200 years a number of people have claimed to be religious prophets with special spiritual authority from God. These include Charles Taze Russell (Jehovah’s Witnesses), Ellen G. White (Seventh-day Adventists), Mary Baker Eddy (Christian Science), and Joseph Smith (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints). Each started an organization which claimed to be the one true Christian Church, each had unique teachings, and each appealed to the Bible to some degree as their basis for spiritual authority. Yet, each "prophet’s" teachings contradict those of the others.

How can we test a person like Joseph Smith who claims to be a prophet?

Jesus warned in Matthew 7:15 that many false prophets would come, and several other places warn us about false prophets and spiritual deception (2 Corinthians 11:4-15; Galatians 1:6-9; 1 Timothy 4:1; 2 Peter 2:1-3; 1 John 4:1 and Jude 3-16). We should not be surprised, therefore, to discover that there are false prophets in the world today.

A specific biblical test. The Bible, in Deuteronomy chapters 13 and 18, provides 2 tests for anyone claiming to be a prophet and speak for God. If the person fails either test given by God, then we can know for sure they are a false prophet and we are to reject their teaching. Here we will focus on the test found in Deuteronomy 18:21-22 which reads as follows:

And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

Here the God of Israel tells his people how they can keep from being deceived by someone claiming to be a prophet — if even one of the prophet’s prophecies do not come true he is a false prophet. What was the punishment if a prophet did speak a false prophecy? According to verse 20 the prophet was to die. So God takes the area of false prophecy very seriously.

Joseph Smith's false prophecies in the name of the Lord constitute one of the single greatest objections to his claim to be a latter-day prophet of God.


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To: bonfire
Got what? That I don't proof read too well?
141 posted on 02/09/2003 1:49:49 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu
Well, now I know. I honestly thought it was one of those made-up words from the BOM. (like Kolob, etc.)

In the words of Rosanna: "Nevermind"
142 posted on 02/09/2003 1:52:23 PM PST by bonfire
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To: bonfire
Who is Rosanna?
143 posted on 02/09/2003 2:05:46 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu
Nevermind
144 posted on 02/09/2003 4:45:17 PM PST by Wrigley
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To: Wrigley
You don't quoth the raven very well!
145 posted on 02/09/2003 8:38:28 PM PST by Elsie (I trust in Jesus.... THOUSANDS OF EXISTING MANUSCRIPTS speak of Him!)
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To: Elsie
Nevermore.
146 posted on 02/10/2003 4:22:19 AM PST by Wrigley
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To: A.J.Armitage
First of all A.J., please allow me to compliment you on a most intriguing post. Also, please forgive me for posting only links and references at this time. I pray that you may find the answers to your sincere doubts and questions in relation to Joseph Smith.

Prophecy # 1 --- The Coming of the Lord

Please see Stephen R. Gibson's "Did Joseph Smith Falsely Prophesy Of Christ's Return?," One-Minute Answers to Anti-Mormon Questions (Bountiful, Utah: Horizon Publishers)? and Malin L. Jacobs"The Alleged Fifty-Six-Year Second-Coming Prophecy of Joseph Smith: An Analysis," (City Unknown: SHIELDS, 13-Jul-97)

Prophecy # 2 --- David W. Patten to go on a mission

Please see Stephen R. Gibson's "Did Joseph Smith Prophesy Falsely Regarding David Patten?," One-Minute Answers to Anti-Mormon Questions (Bountiful, Utah: Horizon Publishers)

Prophecy # 3 --- The United States Government to be overthrown in a few years and Prophecy # 4 --- Congress to be broken up as a government and Prophecy #6 --- Pestilence, Hail, Famine & Earthquake to Destroy the Wicked

Please see Chapter 4, The United States in Prophecy of Gerald N. Lund's The Coming of the Lord [Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1971]

Prophecy #5 ---Finding Treasure in Salem, Massachusetts

Please see http://www.dcsites.com/dc030.htm and chapter 40, Doctrine and Covenants Section 111, of L. G. Otten and C. M. Caldwell 's Sacred Truths of the Doctrine and Covenants [Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1982-1983], 2: 251.)

Prophecy # 7 --- Temple to be Built in Zion, Missouri

Please see Stephen R. Gibson's "Did Joseph Smith Falsely Prophesy Of a Temple In Independence?," One-Minute Answers to Anti-Mormon Questions (Bountiful, Utah: Horizon Publishers)

How can we test a person like Joseph Smith who claims to be a prophet?

Please see FAIRLDS.org's The Nature of Prophets and Prophecy.

Also see:

pseudogratix @ Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father (John 14:12).

147 posted on 02/10/2003 8:05:25 AM PST by pseudogratix (1 Corinthians 1:27 - But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise...)
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To: drstevej; Wrigley; P-Marlowe
. It would be great to have her as a sister in Christ.

Amen Jesus !

Revelation 22:18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book.

148 posted on 02/10/2003 8:16:27 AM PST by Revelation 911 (9 out of 10 freepers agree, zot is tasty, lowfat and nutritious)
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To: Illbay; Wrigley
Main Entry: cre·tin
Pronunciation: 'krE-t&n
Function: noun
Etymology: French crétin, from French dialect cretin, literally, wretch, innocent victim, from Latin christianus Christian
Date: 1779
1 : one afflicted with cretinism
2 : a stupid, vulgar, or insensitive person : CLOD, LOUT
- cre·tin·ous /-t&n-&s/ adjective

Stop right now - your behavior is not appropriate
149 posted on 02/10/2003 8:26:10 AM PST by Revelation 911
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To: Revelation 911; Illbay
Thanks for the backup ftd.

Its good to let the statements stand. We are finally getting honesty from many mormons here about what they think of Christians and Christianity.
150 posted on 02/10/2003 8:31:46 AM PST by Wrigley
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To: Revelation 911; fortheDeclaration
Pardon me, I mistook you for ftd.

Thanks for the backup Rev.
151 posted on 02/10/2003 8:33:09 AM PST by Wrigley
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To: restornu
LOL!
152 posted on 02/10/2003 1:55:13 PM PST by fortheDeclaration
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To: Illbay; xzins; Wrigley
From whence does this sense of persecution come from?

I seem to remember a little massacre of a wagon train by a group of Mormons that killed over 100 hundred innocent people.

Mormons are teaching a false gospel and a false Christ.

No one is stopping you from stating what you want, but we Christians have a responsibilty to let people know that it is not Christian and will not save anyone (Gal.1:8)

153 posted on 02/10/2003 2:00:27 PM PST by fortheDeclaration
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To: Revelation 911; Illbay
I am confused my dictionary says-

cre·tin n. 1. A person afflicted with cretinism. 2. Offensive Slang. An idiot. –cretin·oid adj. –cretin·ous adj.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition

So what's the beef Joseph Smith, has been called worst?

154 posted on 02/10/2003 3:35:18 PM PST by restornu ( Words can Kill)
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To: fortheDeclaration
There is much missing from your simple post on MMM like how did those innocent people get caught in the middle of this tragedy?

That happen in 1857 after decades of being hounded off the land that LDS have set up and made the land profitable where it was desolate.

Neighbors around the area were fearful and envious of how dilligent the LDS were in exercising free enterprise.

So they needed to run the Mormons out the country and the LDS ended up in Utah a Deseret.

Yet the mobocraty were still were intent on destroying everylast Mormon.

Do you think many of the LDS could have felt they were living in unfavorable circumstances FTD? Like between a rock and a hard place?

All feel very bad for the lost of those innocent folks and they were told before hand do not take that route, because of the tentions in the area.

They ignore good advice before they traveled in the area. Sady they were mistaked for who were chasing the Mormons.

Today the story has been rehashed many times and spun many ways to suit the storie teller. Even much has been embellished to an already horrible disastrous event.

Now in the history of the Momons, they have NEVER been known to go after or to initiate confrontations!

155 posted on 02/10/2003 4:10:13 PM PST by restornu ( Words can Kill)
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To: restornu; Wrigley; Illbay; RnMomof7; xzins; P-Marlowe
I am confused my dictionary says- cre·tin n. 1. A person afflicted with cretinism. 2. Offensive Slang. An idiot. –cretin·oid adj. –cretin·ous adj. The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition So what's the beef Joseph Smith, has been called worst?

I used Meriiam Webster Online

Yes, Smith has been called worse - does that justify treating each other similarly, or should we excersize some restraint and judgement?

Ecc 5

Ecclesiastes 5 Stand in Awe of God 1 Guard your steps when you go to the house of God. Go near to listen rather than to offer the sacrifice of fools, who do not know that they do wrong. 2 Do not be quick with your mouth, do not be hasty in your heart to utter anything before God. God is in heaven and you are on earth, so let your words be few. 3 As a dream comes when there are many cares, so the speech of a fool when there are many words.

156 posted on 02/11/2003 7:06:47 AM PST by Revelation 911
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To: restornu; fortheDeclaration; xzins; P-Marlowe; RnMomof7
Now in the history of the Momons, they have NEVER been known to go after or to initiate confrontations!

I would respectfully point you towards the Congression testimony of Maj Carrelton in regards to Mountain Meadow - even Gordon Hinckley admits the LDS involvement.

157 posted on 02/11/2003 7:09:59 AM PST by Revelation 911
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To: restornu
There is much missing from your simple post on MMM like how did those innocent people get caught in the middle of this tragedy

They were making the journey to the West. Don't blame them for the murder the Mormons did. Remember, they were the victims, not the ones who did the crime.

All feel very bad for the lost of those innocent folks and they were told before hand do not take that route, because of the tentions in the area.

So the fact that the Mormons couldn't control themselves isn't a problem. Once more it the victim's fault they were murdered by the Mormons.

They ignore good advice before they traveled in the area. Sady they were mistaked for who were chasing the Mormons.

What? These people were camped and were told that they would not be harmed. When they let their defenses down, the Mormons slaughtered them. There was no mistake about it.

Don't try to minimize what happened.

158 posted on 02/11/2003 8:23:18 AM PST by Wrigley
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To: Wrigley; White Mountain; CubicleGuy; Utah Girl; rising tide; Grig; Rad_J; Illbay
I am glad you were there Wrigley to fill us in on what really happen.

You only have one side to this issue and it has been taken from a Horrible Tragedy to be milked to stir up more contempt towards the Mormons. Until words like yours and apostates someday escalates to the point of killing of more LDS. You may not be a descendand of those who killed the prophet or try to EXTERMINATE the LDS, forcing the LDS to flee across country, but you might as well be!

If I was leading a people across country and was told to stay away from an area that was very intents that the Mormons were living under the threat of extermination. I would stay clear and not put those folks in harm way!

Not all have the Mormons were able to have their wits about them John Lee was living a natural man thing, and not listening to the councle of the Lord. Yes he was a Mormon but he was acting ON his OWN.

159 posted on 02/11/2003 9:17:26 AM PST by restornu
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To: restornu
Don't bother arguing with them about it, restornu. This is their precious wad; it's all they have, and it's all they're going to play.

It's a dead issue, and pointless to even discuss.

What I'd LOVE to hear from him--but never will--is a discussion of how according the OFFICIAL RECORDS AND DOCUMENTS in the states of Missouri and Illinois, the sacred Constitutional rights of thousands of men, women and children living in the "Mormon" settlements in those states were systematically exterminated and driven from their homes, without so much as criminal charges being filed, nor due process being served.

No, they don't want to talk about that because, deep down inside, they think it justified. They would do it to "Mormons" again in a heartbeat, if they thought they could get away with it. The hate in their hearts is so palpable you can feel it.

Instead, they'll snub an issue concerning these THOUSANDS of people, an issue that was NEVER resolved by the authorities, and for which NOT ONE INDIVIDUAL was ever brought to justice by the courts of this land, in favor of a gruesome murder where justice WAS served, and the whole matter laid to rest.

You see how they are? And don't expect anything different, because it's not going to happen. Thus forever is the "secret combination", and Satan is at the center of it.

160 posted on 02/11/2003 9:27:13 AM PST by Illbay
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