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Tridentine Mass, Eucharistic Ministers
Seattle Catholic ^ | December 27,2002 | Thomas E. Woods, Jr.

Posted on 12/27/2002 2:16:03 PM PST by ultima ratio

Tridentine Mass, Eucharistic Ministers by Thomas E. Woods, Jr.

The spirit of innovation of the past forty years has dulled the sensibilities of many churchmen to the seriousness and gravity of their almost routine ruptures with tradition. If it is pointed out to them that some innovation would obviously have been detested by the entire assembly of saints, they either do not care (an attitude that at one time would have been unthinkable for a Catholic) or they actually claim that we have made "progress" since their time. Such is the level of our spiritual idiocy that an age as spiritually and aesthetically impoverished as our own can describe itself as "progress," and interpret the saints' presumed displeasure at our novelties as a sign of their backwardness rather than of our immaturity.

As a convert, I have always found the use of "Eucharistic ministers" one of the most disturbing of the postconciliar innovations. I wondered: if Catholics really believe what they say about the Holy Eucharist, and if they really believe what they say about the holy priesthood, why on earth undermine both by the introduction of laymen into so sacred an area of the Church's life - and one into which laymen had never asked or desired admission? After all, St. Thomas Aquinas made an explicit connection between the ordination of the priest and his distribution of Holy Communion, and Pope John Paul II once pointed out the relationship between the consecration of the priest's hands and his inestimable privilege of distributing consecrated Hosts to the faithful.

None of this seems to matter to the innovators, whose ideological point isn't exactly subtle: the introduction of Eucharistic ministers clearly and obviously denigrates the office of the sacramental priesthood in the name of an egalitarianism utterly foreign to Catholic tradition (though, not coincidentally, quite welcome to the world). The implicit premise is that we must be conformed to the world: since the age we live in is one that emphasizes "equality," and since the privileges of the priesthood therefore seem incongruous and intolerable to the opinion makers of our time, the demands of the age rather than those of immemorial tradition must be satisfied.

In at least one case, Eucharistic ministers are apparently being foisted on an indult Mass community - that is, people who attend the Church's traditional Latin Mass. Of course, people who attend that Mass do so precisely in order to avoid the casual familiarity in the presence of the sacred that the use of Eucharistic ministers so plainly reflects. In a world that believes that nothing is immune to change, that the family itself is subject to redefinition according to human whim, they appreciate the fact that the piety and reverence of the traditional Latin Mass, in its beauty and stately reserve, and in its reservation of sacred tasks to the priest alone, reminds us that some things really are not to be touched by man. What message do our society and our children need more than this?

The great King Philip II of Spain, upon eyeing a young toddler attempting to scale the Communion rail, explained to the young child, "Only the priests may go there." Today, a generation with more misplaced self-confidence than spiritual maturity laughs at the beautiful and solemn piety of our forebears, who would never have dreamed of encroaching on the terrain of the holy priesthood and demystifying and rendering profane the site of the most beautiful and majestic thing on earth.

Good Catholic parents must therefore work against the pressures of the media, of the entertainment industry, and of the overall Zeitgeist to impart to their children the idea that some things are sacred, an idea that is best expressed through action and gesture. Holy Communion, they tell their children, by imparting to us a share in the divine life, is God's greatest gift to us on earth. Holy Communion, moreover, contains the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of our Lord Himself. The only rational and spiritually mature response to such a gift, therefore, must be great reverence, and it is this message to children that the presence of Eucharistic ministers, non-ordained members of the faithful, consistently undermines. Since, moreover, the priest's exclusive custodianship of the Eucharist has traditionally been one of the aspects of the priesthood that has so fascinated and enticed boys from a young age about that sacred office, the use of Eucharistic ministers can only detract from the mystery of the priesthood that young boys find so compelling. (Why make all the sacrifices associated with the life of the priest if Mrs. Jones can feed the flock just as well as you can?)

It is this spiritual sickness that besets us on all sides, and which is practically institutionalized throughout American parish life, that people who attend the traditional Latin Mass are attempting to avoid. They make great sacrifices to attend these Masses, often driving hours each way or even relocating elsewhere in the country where the old Mass is more easily accessible. Bishops and pastors who go out of their way to demonstrate their "pastoral understanding" toward divorced and remarried Catholics, dissenting Catholics, feminist Catholics - the list gets much worse - have nothing but contempt for those Catholics who are simply trying to live the Faith as their fathers and grandfathers did, and who in their own way are trying to resist the surrounding culture's fixation with desacralization and the profane that bishops and pastors should themselves be resisting rather than indulging.

That Catholics should have to contend with their own pastors in such a struggle is bizarre and demoralizing enough, but that they should have to do so in the context of the traditional Mass is inexcusable. Such profanation shows utter disregard for the sensibilities of those present and gives scandal to the children. There is more than a touch of fanaticism in those who, while acquiescing in or positively encouraging such spectacles as charismatic hysteria, the alleged "cathedral" in Los Angeles, and interfaith liturgical dance, only grudgingly allow the traditional Mass of their own Church - and even then have to impose on its hapless faithful one of the most impious and destructive innovations since Vatican II, one which obviously violates the entire ethos of the old rite and the traditional view of the priesthood - that is, the only one the saints would have recognized. Can't these poor folks simply be left alone?


TOPICS: Catholic; Religion & Culture; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholic; eucharisticminister; indult; ministers; novusordo; thomasewoods; tridentinemass; vaticanii
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This is why Rome is not to be trusted. The Indult itself is a sham. It was a sham from the beginning--since no "indult" was ever necessary to celebrate a Mass that had never been officially abrogated. The freedom for any priest to say the "Mass for All Time" should have been guaranteed by this Pope long ago.
1 posted on 12/27/2002 2:16:03 PM PST by ultima ratio
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To: ultima ratio
The link doesn't go to Seattle Catholic but to another spot that won't let me in.
2 posted on 12/27/2002 2:41:33 PM PST by Salvation
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To: Salvation
http://www.catholicreform.org/eministers.html
3 posted on 12/27/2002 2:48:32 PM PST by Coleus
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To: Salvation
That's because U.R. found the article from a link in seattlecatholic.com.

One has to be a registered user to access the article directly in catholicreform.com.
4 posted on 12/27/2002 4:59:30 PM PST by Telit Likitis
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To: Coleus
Thanks, Coleus.

5 posted on 12/27/2002 7:24:21 PM PST by Salvation
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To: ultima ratio
I understand the ideas that this author is talking about with the special blessing that is given to a priest's hands. However, what do we do when there will no longer be priests but maybe once a month to consecrate hosts?

Who will distribute them then in a Communion Service?

There are not enough priests to go around to have two priests at each Mass even in these days.

I don't see that have laymen and women distribute Communion is such an abomination compared to a lack of priests.

Aren't we looking at the wrong problem here?
6 posted on 12/27/2002 7:27:30 PM PST by Salvation
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To: Salvation
Why are there no priests? Read Goodby, Good Men. Who would want to be part of such corruption? Yet you still defend the status quo and everything this Pope does. The Church is staggering under the blows of unprecedented scandal. Yet for JnPII the Vatican II springtime is right around the corner. When are you all going to start connecting the dots?
7 posted on 12/27/2002 7:47:19 PM PST by ultima ratio
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To: sandyeggo
I can say for a fact that the Society of St. John was never truly traditionalist. I know the men and the order. I was at first gulled, like a lot of others, into thinking they were authentic. But they were aesthetes little interested in the theological fundamentals that separate traditionalism from the Novus Ordo crowd. They wanted to wear monks' habits and swing incense. It took no time at all to convince them to dump the '62 Missal. They are as phony as three dollar bills.

As for The Christ the King Institute--I know little about them. But a few isolated cases in the traditionalist camp are not what's going on in the Novus Ordo and anybody who is deluded into thinking so is mistaken. We're talking wholesale corruption in the New Church--by the many, not the few, and reaching all the way to the Vatican itself. We're talking about an entire subculture that has yet to be denounced. We're talking about the need for reform that never takes place because the Vatican will not exercise the authority to allow it to happen.

Christ the King Institute took care of its bad apples. The Novus Ordo Church simply looks the other way and refuses to even honestly name it.
10 posted on 12/27/2002 9:15:48 PM PST by ultima ratio
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To: sandyeggo
Let me re-focus my response. It's not that here and there a few bad apples does something which is scandalous. That's not what we're talking about with the Novus Ordo crowd. We're talking about an active agenda to nurture a gay subculture.

In the nineties--a few years before everything hit the fan in Boston--a gay symposium was held--where else?--in Chicago. Bishops attended. More than 90 dioceses across America sponsored the event which was convened to urge clergy and seminarians to live out their sexuality. That's the sort of thing we're talking about. Big time organization to change the Catholic ethos on sexuality.

We're also talking about countless gay Masses, gay dances on church property, porn websites catering to gay priests. We're talking about bishops pushing a sex education designed to prevent "homophobia" by introducing values-neutral discussions about homosexuality in Catholic schools, complete with disgustingly detailed information about anal and oral sex and sado-masochism--all for the assimilation of parochial and diocesan schoolchildren, some of them at the elementary level, despite the widespread objections of parents. We're talking about a priest like Shanley of Boston remaining in good standing in his diocese, even though it was known he was a public activist for man-boy sexual "love". We're talking about making sure that straight and orthodox candidates to the priesthood--some of whom were punished for saying the rosary or visiting the Blessed Sacrament--never got past the keepers of the gates, those who had the final say as to who was or was not acceptable for the priesthood--mostly feminists and gays. We're talking the widespread rejection of straight and orthodox young men as candidates while their gay counterparts were knowingly allowed to cruise the leather bars to their hearts content--and still won approval.

So don't post these innocuous stories about traditionalists and their bad apples. We're talking about a culture of corruption when we talk about the Novus Ordo--not merely a few isolated incidents of bad behavior.
11 posted on 12/27/2002 9:47:10 PM PST by ultima ratio
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To: HDMZ
I no longer attend the Indult since the Vatican kicked out Bisig, so I don't really know what's happening. But it's clear they have become shills for the Vatican. Their lips are sealed regarding the truth of the Novus Ordo and how it undermines the faith. To me, this indicates a sell-out of principle at a very profound level.
12 posted on 12/27/2002 9:52:00 PM PST by ultima ratio
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To: sandyeggo
Fine, post them if you want to. But don't think you are making any sort of point of comparison by doing so.
14 posted on 12/27/2002 10:03:45 PM PST by ultima ratio
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To: HDMZ
Exclude NH, no indult masses here.

-Telit
16 posted on 12/27/2002 11:04:56 PM PST by Telit Likitis
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To: Salvation
<> There used to be a time when everyone used to recieve Comunion in the hands. Woods is a convert who desires to tell the Pope what real Catholics do. He is a joke

Ecclesia Dei gave The Indult to end the schism but is was given with the expressed condition that those attached to it would cease atacking the Missa Normativa and the Second Vatican Council.

They are slowly stangling themsleves with ceaseless attacks against Divinely-Constituted authority. They are disobeying the spirit and the letter of the Ecclesia Dei law. That is not surprising. They are spiritually and intellectually protestants and they are dooming what they claim to love...Go figure.

What is pathetic is that those who claim to love the 1962 Roman Missal encourage their mouthpieces in their sucidial actions. That illustrates the schismatic mindeset that suffuses the Indult crowd. The next Pope is likely to rescind the Indult given their enmity to authority<>

17 posted on 12/28/2002 7:36:12 AM PST by Catholicguy
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What is pathetic is that those who claim to love the 1962 Roman Missal encourage their mouthpieces in their sucidial actions. That illustrates the schismatic mindeset that suffuses the Indult crowd. The next Pope is likely to rescind the Indult given their enmity to authority

And throw the baby out with the bathwater again? I don't know, CG. There's room for both. But, there does need to be tighter control or the abuses in both are going to destroy it all.
18 posted on 12/28/2002 7:40:39 AM PST by Desdemona
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<> McCaffrey used to undermine and question the authority of Rome with impunity when he edited TLM. IT has goten worse since he left and FR McManus took over. Woods is now an editor on TLM and they feature Michael Davies, Chris Ferrara etc. It is fast becoming a high gloss "The Remnant"<>
19 posted on 12/28/2002 7:41:23 AM PST by Catholicguy
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