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The New World Religion: Teaching God's children to worship "Divine Nature"
http://www.thenewamerican.com/focus/earth_charter/essay.htm ^ | William F. Jasper

Posted on 12/19/2002 7:21:21 AM PST by xzins

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To: ksen; xzins
Check out the "Georgia Guidestones" on the net. I bet old Ted "Christianity is for losers" is involved.
21 posted on 12/19/2002 11:12:48 AM PST by JesseShurun
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Albert Pike, Alger Hess, long list. We are the world crowd.
22 posted on 12/19/2002 11:19:27 AM PST by bulldogs
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To: ksen
Save me a seat too! I will be the one wearing the sandwich board!LOL!
23 posted on 12/19/2002 11:26:13 AM PST by bulldogs
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To: xzins
read later
24 posted on 12/19/2002 12:08:33 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: BlackElk
even a couple of Roman Catholic Cardinals (and NOT on behalf of the Catholic Church!),

BlackElk, if these cardinals are rogue operators, then why is the pope so chummy with Gorbachev, the acknowledged figurehead? Before you claim this isn't so, consider these quotes:

In U.S. News and World Report on May 18, 1992, an interesting article was published under the title "Papal Promoter." This report stated, "Pope John Paul II is promoting Mikhail Gorbachev--to be the ideal presiding officer of a United Europe."

Story below: Insight on the News, Nov 18, 1996 v12 n43 p10(2).
Title: Nourishing the soul. (political activities and social policies of Pope John Paul II)(Cover Story)
Author: David Wagner

In a New York Times op-ed published on March 9, 1992, titled "My Partner, the Pope," Gorbachev wrote:
"Now it can be said that everything that took place in Eastern Europe in recent years would have been impossible without the popes efforts and the enormous role, including the political role, he played in the world arena."
This article may have had more to do with Gorbachev's efforts to establish himself as a leader of New Age futurism than with serious Cold War historiography. (The article teems with references to spiritual content," "high spirituality," "consciousness and spirit" and "the worlds religions"; the pope is praised as a great source of energy.")
Cornelia Ferreira:
What clearer sign could we have that the policy of restructuring the Church is working than Gorbachev giving a speech at the Vatican last November------Gorby, an avowed Communist, whose forums feature occultism, who wants to eliminate 90% of the world's population, who is coordinating all the branches of the socialist new world order, and who instigated the policy of restructuring------the chief representative of the Kingdom of Satan on earth addressing the head of God's Kingdom on Earth and the world's political leaders as an honored and wise guest! Gorbachev has met with the Pope at least half a dozen times since 1989, and last year attended the unveiling of Cardinal Casaroli's memoirs.

25 posted on 12/19/2002 2:34:35 PM PST by Maximilian
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To: BlackElk
Just in case you might be tempted to challenge the authors of my first group of quotes, I found an AP news release which basically says the same thing:


27 June 2000

VATICAN CITY (AP) - He sat between two clerics, quoted the pope and helped plug a book recounting a cardinal's battle against church repression in the Soviet bloc.

Former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev's poll ratings are sagging at home, but he has become a popular figure at the Vatican after forging a friendship with Pope John Paul II.

Gorbachev sat on a dais Tuesday along with two cardinals, the Italian foreign minister and the president of the European Union's commission to promote the book "The Martyrdom of Patience," the memoirs of Cardinal Agostino Casaroli.

Casaroli, who died in 1998, was considered an architect of the Vatican policy that helped the church survive in Eastern Europe during the Cold War.

Gorbachev called Casaroli "a great personality," recalling their meeting in Moscow to help prepare Gorbachev's historic visit to the Vatican in 1989, the first by a leader of the Soviet Communist party. Gorbachev has met with the pope at least a half dozen times since.

26 posted on 12/19/2002 2:44:08 PM PST by Maximilian
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To: Maximilian
Why do you suppose I would be challenging your quotemakers? I know David Wagner personally and knew him before he converted and I would be flabbergasted if he were other that a very strong supporter of JP II. I do not know who Ms. Ferreira may be but she does seem a bit hysterical. I don't find much significance in the fact that Gorby has visited the Vatican six times in ten years.

If the suggestion is that the pope is a secret ally of Gorbachev in seeking to establish at least a neo-Soviet Europe under a wine-stain dictatorship and thereby facilitate the elimination of 90% of Europe's population, it is not those authors who are the problem but, yeah, I would tend to disagree. Do you find that you are having too much time on your hands? Just asking?

Even if I don't always agree with you, you are certainly a much more pleasant fellow than most with whom I might disagree. Your posts here are a tad eccentric.

27 posted on 12/19/2002 3:46:24 PM PST by BlackElk
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To: xzins
http://getusout.org/earthcharter/index.htm
28 posted on 12/19/2002 8:07:36 PM PST by Coleus
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To: Maximilian; BlackElk; RobbyS; Francisco; american colleen; Desdemona
I would be so very interested in knowing who the two cardinals sitting on either side of Gorbachev happened to be. I think it might be quite telling.

There was an interesting thread in the religious section posted by Francisco,on the 17th,entitled "Corpses in the Vatican". It was over wordy and patched and parsed and repetitious.However,the point was,there still remained questions about the murder/suicide of the Swiss Guards that occurred in the late 90's. I was hoping it would lead to a good discussion that would shed more light on this present scandal,which I look at as an oppurtunity for bringing forth that springtime of Christianity that the Pope has been predicting. Of course the thread deteriorated into the usual p*ssing contest.

The one statement that I thought needed thought and light was about two groups,within the Curia poised against another,but I wasn't sure who was what. I was unsuccessful in drawing anyone in but Robbys,who did well,but still no discussion on that little piece of "truth".

I hope you all will go back to that thread and see if what I said makes any sense.

BTW That night I heard a replay of an interview that Art Bell had with Malachai Martin in 1997,(I know,and I'm blushing}.The remarkable thing about it was that Martin mentioned the "pedophilia" in the Church in Boston. He went on to say that it was probably brought over with the folks on the Mayflower,or in some way indicated it did not have its roots in the Catholic Church. Very interesting,I've been grousing about the roots for a while.

I asked Ultima Ratio to listen,he was on line,I thought,because I wanted someone to hear him but I guess Ultima thinks I am such a Knee Jerk Papal Loyalist that I was trying to lead him into a trap or something. Anyway I felt bad and wish somebody had listened. Hope somebody will take a look,I feel so sorry for the Pope beset by so many enemies. I think he may have gotten blindsided by thinking that an enemy of his enemy was his friend. (Or, more likely a "group of enemies" blah,blah)

We who love the Church and know it contains all truth need to learn how to work together better,there is no good reason that so much devolves,after we save the Church then we can argue but things are far too critical in the U.S. as well as the world to spend time on things that are out of our hands right now. What is in our hands is cleaning up this scandal and the evil bishops,the shmoozer bishops and the abuser priests and making sure it doesn't happen again.

29 posted on 12/19/2002 11:00:31 PM PST by saradippity
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To: xzins
This ruling was a continuation of an ongoing subversive campaign aimed at expunging all mention of God and all Christian symbols from the public sphere.

Rainbow triangles may be removed from classroom doors (IL) Guess they let some things in school rooms. Here is a quote from the article:

Slone said the symbol is a "piece of plastic on a window" that does not affect the daily operations of most students.

30 posted on 12/20/2002 12:44:40 AM PST by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
Something tells me their intent isn't to remove God from all the text, but instead counterfeit and substitute a false God as the new object of devotion.
31 posted on 12/20/2002 5:57:50 AM PST by Cvengr
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To: xzins
...The Earth Charter values and principles must be taught, contemplated, applied and internalized. To this end, the Earth Charter needs to be incorporated into both formal and non-formal education. This process must involve various communities, continue to integrate the Charter into the curriculum of schools and universities, and constitute an ongoing process of life-long learning.

Reads as though a study of these issues and placing them into context of Scripture to redirect those being taught back to God, might be a fruitful endeavor.

32 posted on 12/20/2002 6:02:20 AM PST by Cvengr
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To: bulldogs
Methinks most people have been so scarred in their souls by modern culture that they associate these things in carnal terms rather than from a perspective of holiness. Accordingly, associating these reports with the end times seems farfetched in carnal terms.

In carnal terms, they may be right, but in spiritually discerned issues, these reports well describe a Satanic cosmic counterfeit system to God's will.

33 posted on 12/20/2002 6:53:28 AM PST by Cvengr
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To: xzins
BTT
34 posted on 12/20/2002 2:08:28 PM PST by Cvengr
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To: Cvengr
It's a good point. Use the positives in their awareness of God's beautiful creation (although they don't attribute it to God) to talk to them about Jesus.

Take whatever door is open.
35 posted on 12/20/2002 2:10:59 PM PST by xzins
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To: xzins
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36 posted on 02/10/2007 7:07:03 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, insects)
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To: Coleus

2002!


37 posted on 02/10/2007 7:56:30 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins

my, how time flies.


38 posted on 02/11/2007 10:37:16 AM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, insects)
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To: Coleus

when you're having such fun


39 posted on 02/11/2007 10:43:50 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins
And where are Richard Dawkins and all those atheists who are so loud whenever Biblical religion is being suggested? Uh-huh. "Science" and "rationalism" have nothing to say about new age nature worship, because the "enlightenment" worshiped both "reason" and "nature."

Not that I'm a big fan of the John Birch Society's New American, whose official theology is post-millenial chr*stian reconstructionism (note the attack on "de-chr*stianization" when Jews and Noachides use "CE" and "BCE" to avoid being implicated in idolatry).

40 posted on 02/11/2007 10:49:54 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator ("Kol 'asher-dibber HaShem na`seh venishma`!")
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