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To: Land of the Irish
Even putting the homosexuality issue aside, when has it become permissible for divorced men to be ordained to the priesthood?

It happens more than you know.

Married men can't be ordained, but divorced men (even those whose marriages haven't been annulled) can be.

Figure THAT one out!

10 posted on 12/19/2002 7:11:18 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
Married men can't be ordained, but divorced men (even those whose marriages haven't been annulled) can be.

I'm shocked! A divorced Catholic man, even though he is not permitted to remarry because the Church says he's still married, can be ordained as a Catholic priest. How long has that been permitted? Is is not a preclude to ordaining married men, who are not divorced?

These are sincere questions, Sinkspur. I'd appreciate any further information you may have pertaining to this.

11 posted on 12/19/2002 7:32:42 PM PST by Land of the Irish
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To: sinkspur; GatorGirl; tiki; maryz; *Catholic_list; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; ...
Can you spell M-O-D-E-R-N-I-S-M?
12 posted on 12/19/2002 7:32:44 PM PST by narses
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To: sinkspur
From the Catechism: Holy Orders, sacrament of, 1536 Christ as the Minister of, 1575 and consecration, 1538 degrees of, 1593 goals and significance of, 1120, 1534, 2686 God's call to the ordained ministry, 1578 manifestation of, 1142 meaning of words, 1537-38 one of the seven sacraments, 1113, 1210 prefiguring of, 1541 presence of Christ in, 1548-50 as the way of transmission of apostolic succession, 1087 See also Ministry; Sacrament(s) celebration of the sacrament of Holy Orders bishop as minister of, 1576 place and time of, 1572 rites of celebrations of the three degrees, 1573-74 signs of consecration, 1538 effects of the sacrament of Holy Orders acting in the person of Christ the Head, 1142, 1548 capacity to act as Christ's representative, 1581 configuration to Christ the Priest, 1585 deacons strengthened by sacramental grace in the service of the People of God, 1588 grace of strength for the bishop, 1586 grace of strength for the priest, 1587 indelible character of, 1121, 1582-83 power to forgive sins, 1461 unworthiness of an ordained minister does not prevent Christ from acting, 1584 three degrees of the sacrament of Holy Orders, 1536, 1554 diaconate deacon is ordained into the bishop's ministry, 1569 indelible character of, 1570 only the bishop lays hands, 1569 See also Deacon(s) episcopacy consecration confers the offices of sanctifying, teaching, and governing, 1558 fullness of the sacrament of, 1557 handing on of the mission of the apostles, 1556 intervention of the Bishop of Rome necessary for the legitimate ordination of a bishop, 1559 See also Bishop priesthood anointing, 1563 handing on of the ministry through the bishops, 1562 indelible character, 1563 ordination in the order of priesthood, 1568 of priests presupposes the sacrament of Christian initiation, 1563 priests share in Christ's universal mission, 1565 significance of the mission of priests, 1564 significance of the promise of obedience to the bishop, 1567 See also Priest/priesthood who may receive the sacrament of Holy Orders ability of a baptized male, 1577 a celibate baptized man (in the Latin Church), 1579 a man called by God, 1578 discipline in force in the Eastern Churches, 1580 married permanent deacons, 1579 right to receive holy orders given to no one, 1578
13 posted on 12/19/2002 7:51:27 PM PST by Salvation
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To: sinkspur
Where are you getting this information?

VI. WHO CAN RECEIVE THIS SACRAMENT?

1577 "Only a baptized man (vir) validly receives sacred ordination."[66] The Lord Jesus chose men (viri) to form the college of the twelve apostles, and the apostles did the same when they chose collaborators to succeed them in their ministry.[67] The college of bishops, with whom the priests are united in the priesthood, makes the college of the twelve an ever-present and ever-active reality until Christ's return. The Church recognizes herself to be bound by this choice made by the Lord himself. For this reason the ordination of women is not possible.[68]

1578 No one has a right to receive the sacrament of Holy Orders. Indeed no one claims this office for himself; he is called to it by God.[69] Anyone who thinks he recognizes the signs of God's call to the ordained ministry must humbly submit his desire to the authority of the Church, who has the responsibility and right to call someone to receive orders. Like every grace this sacrament can be received only as an unmerited gift.

1579 All the ordained ministers of the Latin Church, with the exception of permanent deacons, are normally chosen from among men of faith who live a celibate life and who intend to remain celibate "for the sake of the kingdom of heaven."[70] Called to consecrate themselves with undivided heart to the Lord and to "the affairs of the Lord,"[71] they give themselves entirely to God and to men. Celibacy is a sign of this new life to the service of which the Church's minister is consecrated; accepted with a joyous heart celibacy radiantly proclaims the Reign of God.[72]

1580 In the Eastern Churches a different discipline has been in force for many centuries: while bishops are chosen solely from among celibates, married men can be ordained as deacons and priests. This practice has long been considered legitimate; these priests exercise a fruitful ministry within their communities.[73] Moreover, priestly celibacy is held in great honor in the Eastern Churches and many priests have freely chosen it for the sake of the Kingdom of God. In the East as in the West a man who has already received the sacrament of Holy Orders can no longer marry.

15 posted on 12/19/2002 7:59:25 PM PST by Salvation
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