To: ultima ratio
I though the pope was infallible though? :) (ducking for cover and going to get some coffee...)
To: chance33_98
The Pope is considered infallible only when speaking 'ex-cathedra'. This is not one of those occasions. However, the bishops speaking in concert at a Council are also considered infallible in their pronouncements. What I continually see posted at this site is a lack of belief that Vatican II was infallible in it's pronouncements. So I am confused because it seems that many of the old Traditionalists believe in the doctrine of infallibility only if it fits their beliefs and concepts of the Catholic Church. If the doctrine of infallibility fails in Vatican II, then it fails with the Papacy as well, and all non-Biblical precepts of the faith fade away with the doctrine.
5 posted on
12/15/2002 7:47:26 AM PST by
noahltl
To: chance33_98
Infallibility is restricted to ex cathedra statements only. The pope is in all else very fallible--as we can see by the ecclesiastical messes this one keeps making.
To: chance33_98
36 posted on
10/07/2003 2:37:56 PM PDT by
Salvation
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