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DANCE CAN BE PRAYER
The Evangelist ^ | December 12, 2002 | Karen Dietlein

Posted on 12/13/2002 4:33:46 PM PST by NYer

Youth in Oneonta express themselves through movement

BY KAREN DIETLEIN

STAFF WRITER

Youth at St. Mary's Church in Oneonta are bringing prayer to the parish in a new way: through the lyrical movement of liturgical dance.

Interest in dance began with a 1995 production of the Marty Haugen musical, "Tales of Wonder." Previously, said youth minister Michelle Gardner, the young people "didn't think that [liturgical dance] was something that the community wanted." But when parishioners reacted favorably to the musical, dance was integrated into the youth ministry program.

Ms. Gardner stressed that the troupe's liturgical dance is not a performance, but "a way of praying. It was about giving something that you had and finding your own personal style of prayer."

Signs of faith

Kelly Cyzeski, 17, describes the choreography as "simple movements that allow people to reflect on what is being said in the music."

While the word "dance" often conjures images of leaps, twists and pirouettes, Ms. Gardner said that such agitated movements do not have a place in the program at St. Mary's. She calls the choreography "minimalist" and said that the teens are concerned about "leaving room for the people to pray."

"We pray as we do the movement, and the movement is our prayer," Kelly asserted. "We give it life."

Link to youth

Dance has also become a way that St. Mary's connects to young people. Dance has been incorporated into the Confirmation program and stands as something youth can do to "reach their spirituality," according to Ms. Gardner. "It's beautiful. They're happy. They're praying, and they don't even know it."

For teens whose spirituality is centered not in silent prayer but in action and experience, dance can be a prime way to express to God their hopes, prayers, aspirations and devotions. Because liturgical dance requires a different sort of commitment from the body than traditional silent prayer, says Ms. Gardner, it can help young people further involve themselves as active participants in liturgy.

"It makes teens say, 'I can bring all of me here? They don't just want a little part of me?' When they get up there and move, they feel they are a part of it -- not watching it, not hearing it -- but a part of the prayer process," she said.

Involvement

Youth involved in the dance troupe eventually involve themselves with other aspects of Church ministry, according to Ms. Gardner. They go on to be catechists, music ministers, lectors and Eucharistic ministers, and involve themselves in youth events and social ministries.

"The dancers 'get it,'" she explained. "They find that the community they are in makes this possible. [The parishioners are] very accepting at St. Mary's and truly celebrate these young people. They welcome a variety of prayer models and liturgies, and celebrate each other's gifts."

Kelly, who has been dancing since the age of five, said that liturgical dance has helped her to feel that she was "actually accomplishing something."

Branching out

This year, the dancers are concentrating on expanding their ministry. According to Ms. Gardner, they would like to take their unique brand of liturgical dance to conferences and other parishes; to that end, they're currently creating a video library of their repertory to show other parishes and dioceses.

Another goal is to keep the program alive, so future teens can connect with the sort of hands-on faith the program advocates.

"Some of the images of prayer that children take into their heads are hard for kids. Sometimes, it appears like prayer is a sad thing," Ms. Gardner said. "But prayer can be a celebration."


TOPICS: Activism; Apologetics; Catholic; Current Events; General Discusssion; Prayer; Religion & Culture; Theology; Worship
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According to Ms. Gardner, they would like to take their unique brand of liturgical dance to conferences and other parishes; to that end, they're currently creating a video library of their repertory to show other parishes and dioceses.

NATIONAL CONFERENCE OF CATHOLIC BISHOPS 
(BISHOPS' COMMITTEE on the LITURGY) NEWSLETTER. 
APRIL/MAY 1982.

FROM THESE DIRECTIVES, from the NATIONAL CONFERENCE of CATHOLIC BISHOPS, all dancing, (ballet, children's gesture as dancing, the clown liturgy) are not permitted to be "introduced into liturgical celebrations of any kind whatever."

THE RELIGIOUS DANCE, AN EXPRESSION OF SPIRITUAL JOY

1 posted on 12/13/2002 4:33:47 PM PST by NYer
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To: NYer
Someone should remind Ms. Gardner that there was no dancing at the foot of Calvary!
2 posted on 12/13/2002 4:40:19 PM PST by Gerish
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To: Siobhan; american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; ...
Calling ALL Catholic Freepers!!!

As I type this, my 11th grade confirmandi students are dancing down the aisles at Our Lady of the Assumption Church in Latham, NY. They have been assured by the DRE that this is an appropriate religious expression, now confirmed by this article that appeared in today's edition of the diocesan newspaper, The Evangelist. Last Monday, I handed a copy of the linked article, banning ALL liturgical dance from the liturgy, to the DRE. It would seem that she has the approbation of Bishop Howard Hubbard who authors this newspaper.

Please help me by freeping the editor. Email: james.breig@rcda.org . By joining your voices with mine, perhaps we can stop this from spreading to a diocese near you.

3 posted on 12/13/2002 4:42:43 PM PST by NYer
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To: GatorGirl; tiki; maryz; *Catholic_list; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; Askel5; ...
Ping!
4 posted on 12/13/2002 5:05:51 PM PST by narses
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To: NYer
Marty Haugen is a Lutheran. He has been a regular participant in the Big Island Liturgical & Arts Conference for the past 15 years, and that is how I know him. He was a Catholic until I think about 1988 and then converted back to Lutheranism. I have nothing personal against him - he is a very nice fellow - but what he proffers to an unsuspecting world is not Catholic. This conference, by the way, is a hotbed of dissent. This past November the 3 keynote speakers were Diana Hayes, Megan McKenna, and retired Bishop Remi DeRoo. Liturgical dance must be fought by whatever means you can bring to bear. Usually it is a multi-pronged fight to change the mind of the liturgist & parish priest & the folks at the bishop's office, letters to the diocesan newspaper, and an ongoing education of your youth. In time you will develop allies.
5 posted on 12/13/2002 5:13:13 PM PST by jobim
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To: NYer
Best Wishes!!!

Fortunately, for the near-term future, this will NOT spread to Milwaukee--we finally have a Catholic Archbishop!!

You don't.
6 posted on 12/13/2002 6:48:19 PM PST by ninenot
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To: Gerish
At the foot of Calvary there was also no singing, organ playing, Gregorian chant, or rosaries. The only people speaking in Latin were the Roman soldiers, and no one was dressed in expensive vestments. What is your point?
7 posted on 12/13/2002 7:29:01 PM PST by noahltl
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To: NYer
"You put your right foot in,
You put your right foot out;
You put your right foot in,
And you shake it all about.
You do the Hokey-Pokey,
And you turn yourself around.
That's what it's all about!

You put your left foot in,
You put your left foot out;
You put your left foot in,
And you shake it all about.
You do the Hokey-Pokey,
And you turn yourself around.
That's what it's all about!

You put your right hand in,
You put your right hand out;
You put your right hand in,
And you shake it all about.
You do the Hokey-Pokey,
And you turn yourself around.
That's what it's all about!

You put your left hand in,
You put your left hand out;
You put your left hand in,
And you shake it all about.
You do the Hokey-Pokey,
And you turn yourself around.
That's what it's all about!

You put your right side in,
You put your right side out;
You put your right side in,
And you shake it all about.
You do the Hokey-Pokey,
And you turn yourself around.
That's what it's all about!

You put your left side in,
You put your left side out;
You put your left side in,
And you shake it all about.
You do the Hokey-Pokey,
And you turn yourself around.
That's what it's all about!

You put your nose in,
You put your nose out;
You put your nose in,
And you shake it all about.
You do the Hokey-Pokey,
And you turn yourself around.
That's what it's all about!

You put your backside in,
You put your backside out;
You put your backside in,
And you shake it all about.
You do the Hokey-Pokey,
And you turn yourself around.
That's what it's all about!

You put your head in,
You put your head out;
You put your head in,
And you shake it all about.
You do the Hokey-Pokey,
And you turn yourself around.
That's what it's all about!

You put your whole self in,
You put your whole self out;
You put your whole self in,
And you shake it all about.
You do the Hokey-Pokey,
And you turn yourself around.
That's what it's all about"
8 posted on 12/13/2002 7:35:05 PM PST by APBaer
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To: NYer
Liturgical dance? Surely there's no such tradition. But prayer may consist of any clean thing cleanly offered...

"The story is that of a tumbler--tombeor, street-acrobat--who was disgusted with the world, as his class has had a reputation for becoming, and who was fortunate enough to obtain admission into the famous monastery of Clairvaux, where Saint Bernard may have formerly been blessed by the Virgin's presence. Ignorant at best, and especially ignorant of letters, music, and the offices of a religious society, he found himself unable to join in the services:- -

For he had learned no other thing
Than to tumble, dance and spring:
Leaping and vaulting, that he knew,
But nothing better could he do.
He could not say his prayers by rote;
Not "Pater noster", not a note,
Not "Ave Mary," nor the creed;
Nothing to help his soul in need.

"Tormented by the sense of his uselessness to the society whose bread he ate without giving a return in service, and afraid of being expelled as a useless member, one day while the bells were calling to mass he hid in the crypt, and in despair began to soliloquize before the Virgin's altar, at the same spot, one hopes, where the Virgin had shown herself, or might have shown herself, in her infinite bounty, to Saint Bernard, a hundred years before:--

"Ha!" said he, "how I am ashamed!
To sing his part goes now each priest,
And I stand here, a tethered beast,
Who nothing do but browse and feed
And waste the food that others need.
Shall I say nothing, and stand still?
No! by God's mother, but I will!
She shall not think me here for naught;
At least I'll do what I've been taught!
At least I'll serve in my own way
God's mother in her church to-day.
The others serve to pray and sing;
I will serve to leap and spring."
Then he strips him of his gown,
Lays it on the altar down;
But for himself he takes good care
Not to show his body bare,
But keeps a jacket, soft and thin,
Almost a shirt, to tumble in.
Clothed in this supple woof of maille
His strength and health and form showed well.
And when his belt is buckled fast,
Toward the Virgin turns at last:
Very humbly makes his prayer;
"Lady!" says he, "to your care
I commit my soul and frame.
Gentle Virgin, gentle dame,
Do not despise what I shall do,
For I ask only to please you,
To serve you like an honest man,
So help me God, the best I can.
I cannot chant, nor can I read,
But I can show you here instead,
All my best tricks to make you laugh,
And so shall be as though a calf
Should leap and jump before its dam.
Lady, who never yet could blame
Those who serve you well and true,
All that I am, I am for you."
Then he begins to jump about,
High and low, and in and out,
Straining hard with might and main;
Then, falling on his knees again,
Before the image bows his face:
"By your pity! by your grace!"
Says he, "Ha! my gentle queen,
Do not despise my offering!"

"Quelsque jo soie, por vos soit!"

9 posted on 12/13/2002 8:00:12 PM PST by Romulus
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To: narses
Notitiae: Apostolic Penitentiary of the Free Republic Catholic Caucus

Simple possession of Marty Haugen music is a venial sin.

Possession for the purposes of public performance is a mortal sin.

An entire evening of Marty Haugen music is a latae sententiae excommunication. ;-{)

10 posted on 12/13/2002 8:05:48 PM PST by Loyalist
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To: NYer
I'm so sorry... this is awful....

Not allowed to kneel in reverence, but dancing is ok?

My sister just left her Lutheran church over this same thing. Instead of youngsters though, they had a lady in a see through gown dancing up the aisles.


She is just about ready to go back to Catholicsm and now they're going to start this crap? Yeesh...
11 posted on 12/13/2002 8:22:34 PM PST by katnip
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To: APBaer

Dancing at the all-night WYD "vigil": "Front to front to front, my baby"



"Back to back to back, my baby!"



"Side to side to side, my baby..."

From World Youth Day Toronto, 2002

12 posted on 12/13/2002 8:30:49 PM PST by Dajjal
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To: NYer
Seriously, though, considering that there is frequently so-called "liturgical dance" at Papal Visits and sometimes during Papal Novus Ordos, you should very carefully find out whether that April/May 1982 directive is still in force and has not been superceded nor is "on the books but regularly ignored."

Are your 11th graders dancing during a Novus Ordo or are they just dancing inside the church building?

By joining your voices with mine, perhaps we can stop this from spreading to a diocese near you.

Good luck trying! But I hafta tell you that the trajectory is on the side of the dancers. The Novus Ordo is in perpetual "adaptation" and "renewal." So even if dance is still forbidden this year, there is every possibility that it will be permitted next year. Remember that V2 allows all sorts of things during the Novus Ordo under the umbrella of "inculturation" -- which is to V2 what the "Commerce Clause" is to the Constitution.

13 posted on 12/13/2002 9:00:48 PM PST by Dajjal
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To: noahltl
Reverence and respect.
14 posted on 12/14/2002 2:16:06 PM PST by Gerish
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To: Dajjal
<> Oh my Gosh. Kids were DANCING? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Run for your lives......Good Lord, what is the world coming to?

Dancing at a Youth Rally....obviously Satanists<>

15 posted on 12/14/2002 4:11:00 PM PST by Catholicguy
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To: NYer
"They're praying, and they don't even know it."

Useful idiot.

16 posted on 12/16/2002 5:55:10 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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