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OSSUARY POSES PROBLEMS FOR CATHOLIC TEACHING
IntellectualConservative.com ^ | November 20, 2002 | J. Grant Swank, Pastor

Posted on 11/20/2002 6:41:02 PM PST by az4vlad

Was Mary perpetually a Virgin? Are Catholics right to challenge people to be virgins for life like nuns and priests?

The box of bones is exciting as a "find." But for Roman Catholic Church and Eastern Orthodox theologians, it poses a real problem that could take some of the fun out of it.

These two branches of Christendom believe that Mary was perpetually a virgin. That is, obviously, she and husband Joseph never enjoyed God’s good gift of sex in marriage.

Of course, there is no biblical support for this. In fact, biblical support states that the two had sex. Matthew 1:25 states just that; that is, that after Jesus was born, Mary and Joseph enjoyed conjugal relations. Further, Mark 6:3 lists Jesus’ four brothers’ names, and mentioned that He had "sisters."

So there you have it. And when you have it, you can’t have it both ways.

Yet why is this perpetual virginity such a big deal to Catholic and Orthodox? Could it be because celibacy is such a big deal for priests and nuns? So youths are then challenged to be virgins for life like unto the Blessed Mother.

However, once again, there is no biblical backing for this. Instead, the Scriptures state just the opposite regarding Mary.

(The Orthodox believe that Joseph had James by a first spouse. After she died, he married Mary, she birthing only Jesus, thus remaining virginal for life. This is legend with no historical foundation.

Catholics footnote their Bibles by stating that Jesus had no brothers and sisters but that such scriptural statements refer to His cousins. The trouble here is that, in Greek, the terms for "brothers" and "sisters" is not the same as the term for "cousin.")

Other articles by Joseph Grant Swank can be found in the Men's News Daily archive. Therefore, when Andre Lemaire, a specialist in ancient inscriptions at France’s Practical School of Higher Studies, writes in Biblical Archaeology Review that there is very probably an authentic reference to Jesus of Nazareth on an ossuary—the box of bones—it sets up a major problem for Catholics and Orthodox.

The find was in Israel. It would give us the oldest archaeological evidence of Jesus Christ as an historical figure. "James, son of Joseph, brother of Jesus" appears in Aramaic (the language of Jesus) on an empty ossuary—the limestone burial box for bones. Lemaire speculates its date to be 63 AD. He banks that the writing style sets the inscription smack in the time of Jesus and James, leader of the Early Church in Jerusalem.

He states that only 20 Jameses would have had Joseph as father and Jesus as brother in the holy city at that time. Further, inscribing the name of both father and brother on an ossuary was "very unusual." Therefore, this Jesus must have had some unusual notoriety.

Two Israeli scientists with the Geological Survey, having seen through a microscopic exam of the box, inform that there is "no evidence that might detract from the authenticity."

Josephus, first century Jewish historian, scribed that "the brother of Jesus. . .James by name" was martyred by stoning in AD 62. If his bones were stored in a box, such could date to AD 63.

The ossuary’s anonymous owner had not known the value of his possession until Lemaire examined it last spring. Mr. Anonymous says he does not want to deal with pesty reporters or the cost of insurance and protecting the artifact. We might also add that his anonymity will also keep the packs of excited theologians from his door...


TOPICS: Activism; Apologetics; Catholic; Ecumenism; Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion; History; Moral Issues; Orthodox Christian; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics; Theology
KEYWORDS: bible; catholics; celibacy; easternorthodox; mary; nuns; ossuary; priests; virgin
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To: Codie
LOL...Codie ...the whole council of God in contained in the Bible..you really should try reading it from that perspective and not as an addendum to the Roman traditions
101 posted on 11/22/2002 3:41:08 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Or as an addendum to the RnMomof7 tradition either.
102 posted on 11/22/2002 3:48:07 PM PST by Codie
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To: Codie
I quote you the word codie..not a doctrine except what God says..He said your prayers to Mary are an abomination to Him and He curses those that do that ..something you may want to consider
103 posted on 11/22/2002 4:06:04 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
I've 2000 years of "Truth" on my side.You have only yourself.Something you may want to consider. ;)
104 posted on 11/22/2002 4:18:21 PM PST by Codie
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To: Codie
Jesus said I am the way the truth and the life..NO man comes to the Father but by me...

That my friend is an eternal truth:>)

105 posted on 11/22/2002 6:00:20 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Tantumergo; RnMomof7
"To assert that the Ark was a type of Jesus rather than Mary is to fail to understand that what the Ark contained was greater than the Ark itself - just as what Mary bore was far greater than Mary herself. "

This post is the biggest pile of garbage I've ever read.

Please explain how the Mercy seat, which was part of the Ark and not the contents, applies to Mary?

Show me the parallel between Mary and the shedding of blood for the redemption of sins?

The only parallel that can be made now between the Ark and Mary is; both are irrelevant to salvation and are sought after by religions that deny the full redemptive power of Christ (i.e. Judaism, Catholicism)

106 posted on 11/22/2002 6:53:11 PM PST by Joshua
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To: RnMomof7
Jhn 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Says NOTHING about Mary or me lib

So, you don't believe any human can help lead another to Christ?

107 posted on 11/22/2002 11:13:58 PM PST by FormerLib
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