[Polycarp]

The Holy Father is the Vicar of Christ and again has shown himself to be nothing less that the spiritual director of the world.

Amen.

I hope the ultratrads vomit up more of this garbage so we will know them by their stench.

The stench is too stifling already, unfortunately. Look how they have destroyed the witness of Catholicism, at least in part, on this forum alone.

[Siobhan]

You are correct. The Catholic witness on FR has been completely sabotaged whether it was Stephen Hand and Company or the so-called 'ultratrads' -- who may well be SSPXers or even agents of the USCCB -- there is no way of knowing. But the end result has been a neutralizing and a disrupting of something that was wonderful when I first arrived, and I lament its passing. And I wish there were some way to put it right.

[ultima ratio]

No, nobody destroyed anything. What we have introduced is a perspective people like you cannot effectively oppose. You can't oppose our arguments because they are sound and factually based. The fact is, traditionalists are not in the business of destroying anything. We want a restoration of the faith and a restoration of Catholic doctrines and a restoration of tabernacles at the center of sanctuaries and a restoration of a priesthood that is celibate and holy and a restoration of our children's innocence by means of a sound catechesis and a restoration of our ancient customs and rites and pious practices and a restoration finally of our truly Catholic identity. What we have got now is this modernist protestantized abomination--this is the REAL STENCH, the stench of four tragic decades of scandals and apostasies which have been the only authentic legacy of the liberal take-over of the Vatican.