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The hour is coming when I will speak with freepers -- with DrStevej about barbeque and with ftD about coleslaw. I'd like to point out that I could talk to DrStevej next week about barbeque and to ftD the following week about coleslaw. The hour had come when both of those were true. That is a perfectly acceptable use of "time" conventions built into language.

There is just one little word which shreds your argument, a word which you completely left out:

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The problem here is that you think that the Revelation of John is actually the Clarification of John. Evidently Jesus was not clear the first time He spoke and needed to clarify Himself. You should rename your Book appropriately.

And this doesn't even address the fact that you are BBQ'ing the greek word hora to make it fit your reinterpretation of John. The definition of this word speaks about a definite point in time. There is no reason to believe that this is not the case except that you must consult your master "mere 7 verses" from the Clarification of John to change this into 2 definite points in time.

You are embarrassing yourself here.

In the following passage about those who rejoice in Jesus light for "a period of time", the word hora (hwpa) is translated: Niv=time; Nasb=while; Kjv=season; and YLT=hour.

However, it really doesn't matter, however, since Rev 20 explains exactly what John 5:28-29 means.

John 5:35 :: New International Version (NIV)

John 5
35John was a lamp that burned and gave light, and you chose for a time to enjoy his light.

John 5:35 :: New American Standard Bible (NASB)

John 5
35 "He was (1) the lamp that was burning and was shining and you (2) were willing to rejoice for a while in his light.

John 5:35 :: King James Version (KJV)

John 5
35 He was a burning and a shining light: and ye were willing for a season to rejoice in his light.

John 5:35 :: Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

John 5
35 he was the burning and shining lamp, and ye did will to be glad, for an hour, in his light.

The hour is coming when I will speak with all Freepers about BBQ. Those who bring BBQ sauce will sit on the right and the heretic coleslaw bringers will sit on the left.

LOL LOL on another thread there was discussion if I ( yes I:>) was a heretic because I left the RC church...I make a mean coleslaw..but I INTEND to sit on the right