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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
I'll be happy to provide you with many passages from Scripture, but first I need to know if you ever recite the Apostles' Creed and utter the words "communion of saints"?

Does "communion mean Prayer or

com·mun·ion   Pronunciation Key  (k-mynyn) n.

1. The act or an instance of sharing, as of thoughts or feelings.
2. Religious or spiritual fellowship.

3. A body of Christians with a common religious faith who practice the same rites; a denomination.
4. Communion Ecclesiastical.
a. The sacrament of the Eucharist received by a congregation. b. The consecrated elements of the Eucharist. c. The part of the Mass or a liturgy in which the Eucharist is received.

The Saints in heaven that died IN Christ are dead..but all living believers are Saints.Show us please where scripture teaches this is correct or godly?

BTW The communion of saints means the living church

221 posted on 09/04/2002 10:33:37 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
"The child," Christ said, "is not dead; she is only sleeping."

The Church as the body of Christ is not divided by death to this world, because the church is indivisible. Christ has trampled the gates of hades and overcome death. There is no death. There is only life in this world and life in the next.

226 posted on 09/04/2002 10:45:56 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: RnMomof7
The Saints in heaven that died IN Christ are dead..but all living believers are Saints.Show us please where scripture teaches this is correct or godly?

You are in conflict with Scripture. All believers are called to be saints, not all believers are Saints. Can you show me where Scripture states that those in heaven are dead? Are Moses, Elijah and Enoch dead? If so how did Moses and Elijah appear along with Christ to Peter, James and John? What happened to those saints who were resurrected following the death of Jesus? Did they die again and if so where does Scripture tell us that?

Matthew 27:52-53 "And the graves were opened: and many bodies of the saints that had slept arose, And coming out of the tombs after his resurrection, came into the holy city, and appeared to many."

BTW The communion of saints means the living church

The communion of saints means the Church Triumphant, the Church Militant and the Church Suffering. The communion of saints is the bond of unity of all believers, the committed followers of Christ.

Heaven isn't part of the living Church? Seems you define living as strictly in the corporeal, mortal sense, which contradicts Scripture.

Mark 12:24 "And Jesus answering, saith to them: Do ye not therefore err, because you know not the scriptures, nor the power of God?"

Mark 12:26-27 "And as concerning the dead that they rise again, have you not read in the book of Moses, how in the bush God spoke to him saying: I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You therefore do greatly err."

How could that be since Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were all dead when God spoke to Moses?

Are you now answering questions posed to CCWoody?

246 posted on 09/04/2002 11:42:43 AM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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