1 posted on
08/03/2002 6:33:43 AM PDT by
NYer
To: Siobhan; american colleen; sinkspur; Aliska; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp; narses; ...
Feast of the Holy Shroud, May 4
This feast is mainly celebrated in Europe since 1506
An Office and Mass "de Sancta Sindone" was formally approved by Julius II in the Bull "Romanus Pontifex" of 25 April, 1506, in the course of which the pope speaks of "that most famous shroud in which our Saviour was wrapped when He lay in the tomb and which is now honourably and devoutly preserved in a silver casket". (Older Catholic Encyclopedia)
2 posted on
08/03/2002 6:38:17 AM PDT by
NYer
To: NYer
I've heard/seen all this before, but it bears repeating. Most people I know, even Catholics, believe it to be a hoax. I don't think so. After working with archival artifacts, I just think that too much is over looked when it's studied, the fire being the big one. The canister melted and it survived. Think about it.
3 posted on
08/03/2002 7:08:36 AM PDT by
Desdemona
To: NYer
The shroud is not christ.
To: NYer
Holy Shroud bump
12 posted on
08/03/2002 9:21:10 AM PDT by
Dajjal
To: NYer
If anyone finds another piece of ancient cloth which contains a 3-D topographic map of a human body embedded in a pigment-free negative image, please let me know.
The fire affected the Carbon-14 dating.
To: NYer
A man at my parish does presentations on this. He is a chemistry teacher at the community college level and knows a lot about The Shroud of Turin. Unfortunately, the last time he gave a talk, I was unable to attend.
To: NYer
It's an amazing artifact - one that I believe could certainly be the true shroud of Christ. I hope and pray that I should someday be able to see it.
To: NYer
Thank you,NYer for this thread.I just scanned it and the link.And it looks very interesting.Bumping for a later read.
To: NYer
What about the crown of thorns. The shroud has evedence of some sort of thisle but it is the wrong plant to be the crown of thorns.
To: NYer
As much as it might be nice to think it's true, I can reject it on biblical evidence. The Lord's head was wrapped separately from the rest of his body. See the NT.
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I'm pretty sure that carbon 14 testing a few years back was conclusive that this was not a first century cloth. That's pretty heavy evidence to counter.
Really, though, it isn't significant. The burial cloth of Jesus is not salvation and never has been. Christianity has advanced by God's power for centuries without any knowledge of where/when/how of the burial shroud.
Finally, if someone wants to believe it is authentic, that's fine. We all get to choose. But, it won't make a difference in the faith or doctrine of anyone else.
72 posted on
08/25/2002 9:45:28 AM PDT by
xzins
To: NYer
There is a presentation by a group using the shroud of Turin photos and the original Divine Mercy painting, (I think it is call the Villnious portrait) When these images are super-imposed on each other, they are an exact match.
164 posted on
08/27/2002 7:20:14 PM PDT by
tiki
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