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To: NYer
I have recently attended a diocesan sanctioned Tridentine mass. My parish celebrates the Novus Ordo format. However, the mass I find most inspiring, is the one broadcast from Irondale, AL on EWTN.

I have had the same exact experience. On my two trips to EWTN I have found the Novus Ordo mass said in Latin, in Mother Angelica's new monastery shrine in Hanceville to be the most inspiring, reverent, sacred, and moving mass I have ever witnessed.

The mass there is said according to the stated desires of Vatican II, to include saying mass facing East and the liberal use of Latin and chant, and in compliance with all the rubrics.

Unfortunately, if Vatican II were truly followed and the stated revisions to the mass implemented according to the desires of V II as well as Pope Paul VI, ALL MASSES in the USA would resemble this mass that you and I both appreciate so much, but obviously they do not. The question then is WHY NOT?

And it is precisely this type of question that every Catholic DOES have the right to ask, without being labeled a bad Catholic.

69 posted on 07/31/2002 7:48:51 AM PDT by Polycarp
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To: Polycarp
I have said for years that the problem is NOT Vatican II, but rather modernism masquerading as "the Spirit of Vatican II". Read Abp. Weakland's pronouncments on the Indult to see the antipathy of many hierarchs to the True Faith. (N.B., I said the True Faith, not the True Mass. There are many licit Rites, not just the Tridentine.)That the antipathy manifests itself in their anger over a particular Rite (again, note well, THEY are attacking a valid, licit Rite) is not the only evidence. The wreckovation of our architechtural heritage, the destruction of our musical heritage and their CRIMINAL ACTIONS in the current scandal all scream HERESY if not APOSTASY.
70 posted on 07/31/2002 8:00:33 AM PDT by narses
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To: Polycarp
Let me add this, it is their criminal actions and the pattern of criminal conspiracy that remove all doubt. This isn't a case of one sick priest. This is a half century of toleration, acceptance and celebration of criminal conduct. I wish I had saved it, but someone here posted a list of "gay friendly" parishes! It is beyond simple sin, it is massive and ugly and it is time for people to recognize that the structure of our Church has been infested with the enemies of the True Faith. How badly infested? Read your post. Where is the obedience to Rome on the part of the hierarchs? Where?
71 posted on 07/31/2002 8:09:08 AM PDT by narses
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To: Polycarp
to include saying mass facing East

OK, I am ignorant here and asking the question about the altar facing East. BTW, our does; I just never thought about it before.

72 posted on 07/31/2002 9:18:16 AM PDT by Salvation
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