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To: rwfromkansas
You take a weak dog begging like a puppy dog. I take a God that is sovereign and ALWAYS ACCOMPLISHES HIS WILL.

Is it God's will that some would be damned? In fact, some would be created just to be damned? That is no God, that is a horror show. No, 2 Peter 3:9, Revelation 3:20, John 3:16 and many other verses reveal to us that God has made a way for salvation, for everyone.

Now, understand this. We are living in a time of grace. There will be a time when God says, "Enough". And that will be a horrible, terrible time, where all of creation will know the infinite, immutable and perfect justice of God.

Even before Christ came and died for our sins, men were without excuse, for the light of creation and the light of conceince spoke to men (Romans Chapters 1 & 2). Then the very light of God Himself came into the world, but men loved the darkness because their deeds were evil. And soon, Christ will come again, and EVERY knee shall bow and EVERY tounge shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. Here, without debate friends, all will mean all.

Then, for those who overcame, as it says over and over again in Revelation, not those who were predestined, not those who were elect, but for those who, day in and day out were confronted with a choice of a wide path towards destruction or the narrow path towards salvation, those who overcame and chose to share in the death of Christ, those will be the ones who will see everlasting life.

You can mock my belief in God's mercy as being like a "weak dog begging", but I believe in grace freely given and freely received. If you are so myopic and constrained to even suggest that grace equals weakness, then so be it.

I just don't see any scripture that says, "For God so controlled the world that, for those few He predestined, He sent his only begotten Son, so that a few, who had no choice in the matter anyway, would not perish but have everlasting life."

69 posted on 07/29/2002 3:15:00 AM PDT by ponyespresso
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To: ponyespresso
Is it God's will that some would be damned

Can God accomplish HIS will?

75 posted on 07/29/2002 6:48:30 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: ponyespresso
Then, for those who overcame, as it says over and over again in Revelation, not those who were predestined, not those who were elect, but for those who, day in and day out were confronted with a choice of a wide path towards destruction or the narrow path towards salvation, those who overcame and chose to share in the death of Christ, those will be the ones who will see everlasting life.

What do you think that term means? Overcome?

76 posted on 07/29/2002 6:49:55 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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