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Creationists Gather...Dinosaurs Subject of Discussion
The Cincinnati Enquirer ^ | Saturday, July 20, 2002 | Cindy Schroeder

Posted on 07/20/2002 2:08:38 PM PDT by yankeedame

Saturday, July 20, 2002

Creationists gather today:Dinosaurs subject of discussion

By Cindy Schroeder, cschroeder@enquirer.com

The Cincinnati Enquirer

UNION — As children create models of dinosaurs, their parents can search for Biblical references to the giant creatures at a weekend conference hosted by a pro-Creationist ministry that vows to “defend scripture from the very first verse.”

The site of the Answers in Genesis Creation Museum in Boone County is being graded. (Patrick Reddy photo) | ZOOM | Organizers of the program running today and Sunday at Big Bone Baptist Church in Union say the Answers in Genesis family conference is expected to draw between 500 and 600 people within a day's drive of the Tristate. They say it is part of an ongoing series of family conferences that the 8-year-old nonprofit ministry — now building a 50,000-square-foot museum in Hebron — has offered throughout the country to “give (believers) arguments to help debunk evolution.”

Answers in Genesis followers believe the Earth's creatures were created by God and were not the result of an evolutionary process as espoused by scientists such as Charles Darwin.

“Our purpose is to equip Christians to be able to defend Christianity against the evolutionary ideas (or) secular ideas that challenge the Bible,” said Ken Ham, executive director of Answers in Genesis and the conference's keynote speaker. He said organizers will present what they believe is the factual account of the history of the world as presented in Genesis, the first book of the Old Testament.

Like those who promote Intelligent Design, Answers in Genesis followers believe that all life was the result of a creator. However, they carry that theory further, in that they maintain the creator “is the God of the Bible and you can trust the God of the Bible,” Mr. Ham said.

With the help of the writings of “Scriptural Geologists,” Terry Mortenson, a full-time lecturer with Answers in Genesis who has degrees in theology and geology, will attempt to show that dinosaurs walked the Earth with man.

Arnold Miller, a professor of geology at the University of Cincinnati, challenged participants to “go out and examine the evidence themselves,” rather than allow others to interpret the evidence for them.

“I'm all for Answers in Genesis having every opportunity to say what they want,” Mr. Miller said. “But I would challenge anyone who goes to this conference to demand direct positive evidence that the creation of life took place over six days in 4004 B.C. or whatever they say. People should ask, "What's the evidence? Let's hear it.'

“It's one thing to provide misleading characterizations in scientific debates. It's another to say that the answers (to issues such as how life began) really are in Genesis.”


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The Crackpot (Scientist) Index [An old FR thread].

RULES FOR UNCONVENTIONAL RESEARCH .

281 posted on 07/22/2002 10:47:55 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: medved
A logical fallacy quoteing the Bible isn't any more convincing than a logical fallacy not quoting the Bible.


282 posted on 07/22/2002 11:12:08 AM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: Gumlegs

Hitler's office, designed by Albert Speer.
Note presence of satanic electric lamps.
Proof of Edison's influence!

283 posted on 07/22/2002 11:12:09 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
Can I assume you're calling Alexander von Humboldt and the other advocates of the so-called American system of economics in the 1800's (as opposed to the Darwin/Malthus/East-India Company crowd in England) crackpots? Dos that also mean you'd rather be working in some sort of a Malthusian coal mine for lower types than doing whatever you're doing now?
284 posted on 07/22/2002 11:14:30 AM PDT by medved
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To: Gumlegs

Stalin, working with Satanic electric light.
Further proof of Edison's evil influence!

285 posted on 07/22/2002 11:18:51 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: Gumlegs

Better pic of the Stalin-Edison connection!
286 posted on 07/22/2002 11:21:24 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: Gumlegs
Are you equating God---Christianity---creationism with nazis?
287 posted on 07/22/2002 11:37:41 AM PDT by f.Christian
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To: PatrickHenry
Didn't I tell you??? Edison is the all-time monster. Darwin has been unfairly blamed for the horrors of Edisonism.


278 posted on 7/22/02 10:29 AM Pacific by PatrickHenry
288 posted on 07/22/2002 11:38:48 AM PDT by f.Christian
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To: f.Christian
I was attempting to illustrate the logical fallacy of Darwin = Nazism by showing how easy it is to connect Nazism with belief in God.

I don't seriously believe Christianity leads to Nazism any more than I believe the theory of evolution leads to Nazism.

I've also posted that Nazism was caused by the music of Franz Liszt. That's equally as plausible.

289 posted on 07/22/2002 11:54:43 AM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: PatrickHenry

The Nazis issued stamps bragging about
the Hitler-Edison connection. American
fliers were mortified to learn that the evil
American genius had turned against them.

290 posted on 07/22/2002 12:04:47 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: Gumlegs
Got to admit(white flag)...this scorched earth warfare---oh...I'm shell shocked(need some r&r)!
291 posted on 07/22/2002 12:04:52 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: PatrickHenry
"Act Three: Lenin and Stalin recapture the script and consolidate the Revolution as a reign of death. Thomas Edison, inventor of the electric chair, descends with his gift of terror to Stalin. Lenin's visions lead to the death of the artist—Mayakovsky through suicide and Hugo Ball through despair."

From : ZÜRICH 1916

At Last The Truth Begins To Emerge!

292 posted on 07/22/2002 12:12:48 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: f.Christian
You're in the right place for r & r! (If I correctly recall where you are).
293 posted on 07/22/2002 12:13:47 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: PatrickHenry
Edison was quick to allow Hitler unfettered use of the device Edison lovingly called "my favorite invention."

This record on the Die Braune Platte label dates
from circa 1933. Hitler addresses the German
Nation.

294 posted on 07/22/2002 12:27:05 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: Gumlegs
But with Liszt, you at least have the Cosima Connection.
295 posted on 07/22/2002 12:29:45 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Q.E.D.
296 posted on 07/22/2002 12:32:09 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: Gumlegs

Lenin speaking to the meeting of Russian councils.
Note prominent display of Edisonian electric lights.
Further proof of the Edisonist polution of our times

297 posted on 07/22/2002 12:41:44 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: gore3000
G3K in post 241: You are correct in saying that just because different organisms have similar structures, it does not prove or disprove either ID or evolution. It would be unreasonable to say that an intelligent designer would constantly 'reinvent the wheel'. Evolution of course requires traits and genetic material to be passed on so conservation of such traits is not a refutation of evolution either.

vs.

G3K in post 241: ID predicts the total interrelatedness of organisms. Evolution predicts a stochastic organization of the life functions.

23r5

298 posted on 07/22/2002 12:43:23 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: Gumlegs
I was attempting to illustrate the logical fallacy of Darwin = Nazism by showing how easy it is to connect Nazism with belief in God.

Translation: You're in a state of denial.

Social Darwinism, Naziism, Communism, Darwinism Roots etc.


299 posted on 07/22/2002 12:46:12 PM PDT by medved
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To: PatrickHenry
The Bible was onto Edison:

Exod.22 [18] Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

Deut.18 [10] There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,

2Chr.33 [6] And he caused his children to pass through the fire in the valley of the son of Hinnom: also he observed times, and used enchantments, and used witchcraft, and dealt with a familiar spirit, and with wizards: he wrought much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger.

Who was known as "The Wizzard of Menlo Park"?????

300 posted on 07/22/2002 12:52:20 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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