Posted on 07/20/2002 2:08:38 PM PDT by yankeedame
God bones-fossils---wings...halos...certificates/charts---degrees?
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My post was replying to a suggestion that God could have created the world with fossils already in the earth, and other signs of vast age on day one.
In my exposure to creationism, it seemed fairly common for creationists to hold that the earth was (consistent with Bishop Usher's calculations from scriputre) about 6,000 years old.
As far as ancient literature claiming the universe was created recently... Just turn to Genesis 1:1 and you'll read: In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth. That's got the earth showing up right at the beginning, and humans show up just 6 days later. Then if you follow Usher's calculations (based on the lineage from Adam)... you can deduce that this all happened just 6000 years ago. Seems pretty recent to me.
My point is that the abundant physical evidence that the world, and the cosmos, are very old contradicts such a literal reading of Genesis. Any hypothesis that God deliberately created a world which only appears billions of years old requires God to be deceitful. So I prefer to believe instead that Genesis, written for a pre-technological semi-nomadic people thousands of years ago, is only a poetic fable containing some essential spiritual truths but not a literal history of the world.
But that aside, I'm still hoping for an answer to my post #99 - how do you figure Darwin cost 100 million lives?
No difference in my mind. I think the creationists forget one tiny detail about God: He created the set of physical laws by which the Universe operates. For a Creator to go outside the boundaries He Himself established would be to go against the very order He established, something I do not believe even He can or would do.
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That means the sky and the Earth. The word "Universe" is not in the sentence. BTW, the notion of a "big bang" is every bit as much dead as evolutionism, being based on an interpretation of cosmic redshift phenomena which has essentially been disproven. The universe is not expanding and, in all likelihood, has simply always been around.
Enough rain to flood the whole earth is a layer of fresh water over a mile thick... would the saltwater of the oceans be diluted to an extent that there would be mass extinction of several saltwater species? Or contrawise, wouldn't the brackish mix cause a problem for many freshwater species from the former lakes and rivers which have been subsumed within the advancing seas?
Worst case scenario is the ark needs both saltwater and freshater tanks for at least the most sensitive aquatic species. Then, doesn't Noah have to build some kind of mechanism to keep the water sufficiently oxygenated for 40 days and nights? Temperature regulation might be a problem, too.
The increasingly widespread growth of ignorance, mysticism, and outright luddite stupidity is a threat to all advanced societies. The particular flavors within all that ignorance are not particularly important because they are all fought with the same tools - knowledge, reason, and the continuing advancement of science.
Not to mention keeping the darned things clean. Yikes!
That means the sky and the Earth.
But you conveniently ignore the part that says In the beginning. You seem to think there was an earlier beginning, a kind of pre-beginning, when God created the stars and stuff, before "the beginning" began.
And what entitles you to declare that "the heaven" just means "the sky"? Genesis doesn't even have God creating Light until verse 3... so were all the stars of the universe emanating darkness for eons before God got around to creating the earth and then light?
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