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To: medved
I've never yet read anything in ancient literature which seemed to be claiming that the entire universe was created recently.

My post was replying to a suggestion that God could have created the world with fossils already in the earth, and other signs of vast age on day one.

In my exposure to creationism, it seemed fairly common for creationists to hold that the earth was (consistent with Bishop Usher's calculations from scriputre) about 6,000 years old.

As far as ancient literature claiming the universe was created recently... Just turn to Genesis 1:1 and you'll read: In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth. That's got the earth showing up right at the beginning, and humans show up just 6 days later. Then if you follow Usher's calculations (based on the lineage from Adam)... you can deduce that this all happened just 6000 years ago. Seems pretty recent to me.

My point is that the abundant physical evidence that the world, and the cosmos, are very old contradicts such a literal reading of Genesis. Any hypothesis that God deliberately created a world which only appears billions of years old requires God to be deceitful. So I prefer to believe instead that Genesis, written for a pre-technological semi-nomadic people thousands of years ago, is only a poetic fable containing some essential spiritual truths but not a literal history of the world.

But that aside, I'm still hoping for an answer to my post #99 - how do you figure Darwin cost 100 million lives?

164 posted on 07/21/2002 2:24:57 PM PDT by ChuxsterS
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To: ChuxsterS
Evolution was the most major philosophical cornerstone of naziism, communism, and in fact a great deal of the materialistic thinking which led to WW-I and WW-II both.

Social Darwinism, Naziism, Communism, Darwinism Roots etc.


167 posted on 07/21/2002 3:12:57 PM PDT by medved
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To: ChuxsterS
In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth.

That means the sky and the Earth. The word "Universe" is not in the sentence. BTW, the notion of a "big bang" is every bit as much dead as evolutionism, being based on an interpretation of cosmic redshift phenomena which has essentially been disproven. The universe is not expanding and, in all likelihood, has simply always been around.

Big Bang, Electric Sun, Plasma Physics and Cosmology Etc.


169 posted on 07/21/2002 3:19:56 PM PDT by medved
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